It’s election day. We have city council members and mayors to elect. There are issues like Special Local Option Sales Tax (SPLOST) for education and the sale of alcohol on Sunday on the ballots.
As luck would have it, we are reading about politics and economy in our course. In this day of Political Action Committees, Special Interest lobbyist and large corporate donors do you believe that our government is still “of the people and for the people” and that every vote counts?
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I guess it would have depend on the topic, but sometimes I think that the saying above is not effective anymore. Sounds like a bunch of hogwash to me. So many people who would only believe this would be people who lives are being fully supported by the government. They may not care what takes place just as long as it does not effect all the benefits that they get.
ReplyDeleteJason H-67
ReplyDeleteThe government is for sure of the people but definately not for the people. Our govenrment for many years have been run by individuals with very long money so it's so much easier for them to strictly look after people that are like them. This country is extremely competitive on every level, therefore, in order to compete with countries all over the world, the so called little people thaT are in the way, get the shorter end of the stick.
It's unfortunate, because too often times we vote for candidates that we think are looking for our own interest and eventually we come to find out that they are not. I really feel as if these individuals shouldbe held criminally accountable.
Lafarah P
ReplyDeleteNo I do not believe that the govt is for the people and every vote counts in my eyes the govt is going to do what it wants in the end or which ever makes the person running look best. Don't get me wrong every persons vote is worth something because they are putting their opinion out wether it is actually taken into consideration or not is the actual question.
Jason H-67 response to Lafarah
ReplyDeleteI agree with Lafarah that every persons vote is worth something. As far as her question of whether its taken into consideration, I would have to say if push came to shove as in the Bush election, it would be absolutely not!
Rebecca G-69
ReplyDeleteThese days I do not see a point in trying to vote when the government will do as they please for themselves and not for the people. Our government is so corrupted that maybe it is getting ready for a big downfall. Voting in this country is for everyone to get their opinion out and to show what we the people want our government to be. I hope one day the government will see that everyone in this country counts for something....even a tiny vote.
Rebecca G-69 in response to Lafarah P...
ReplyDeleteYes I also agree every vote counts and yes, the government is not for the people. But the people need to take in account for how the government really works these days. It is something that we need to change and acknowledge what is really going inside the voting world.
Rob T.....
ReplyDeleteNo not every vote counts for city and county election(local goverment) your votes do count but on major election like the president the electoral vote are the only vote that counts.
Lelia C.
ReplyDeleteI believe the real question at Election time is not who are we going to vote for but who has the most money to win it? If you have enough money, you can win. If you have enough power, you can win. People can vote all they want(I do vote every election even with my warped opinion) but WHO HAS THE MOST MONEY IN THE END wins it. It is the dollar that does the talking, not the voter's voting. How is that "of the people and for the people" ? It's not. At all.
Denell B-70
ReplyDeleteI believe that our government tries to stand by “of the people and for the people” and that every vote counts. But too many politicians get caught-up in politics and promise for the people until they are elected and then it is about “of me, for me”. One example now is Herman Cain; all we are hearing is “of me”. Today’s politicians have the corrupt reputation because they have either earned it or the media thrives on dragging them through the dirt. What happened to morals in this country?
Denell B-70
ReplyDeleteIn response to Jason H.
I agree that it’s unfortunate, we vote for candidates that we think are looking for our own interest and eventually we come to find out that they are not. Just look at our current president
Kayla W-69
ReplyDeleteI do think that the government is for the people and that every voice counts. I think the real issue is getting Americans to care enough to research the issues and make their opinions. If you dont go out and vote on anything then I can see how you would think that our government is no longer for the people because you didnt do anything and therefore didn't like the results. You vote for President and you vote for the Senate, you put those people into office because you agreed with what they stood for. So YOU are the government, you control it. It is for the people by the people. Just get smart and research the issues, form an opinion, and go out and vote.
Kayla W-69 in response to Denell B
ReplyDeleteIf you feel that Herman Cain is not of the people then don't vote for him, vote for someone you believe is for the people. A president doesn't get his way on matters it has to go through the Senate and the House of Representatives who you vote for as well.
Patti S 70
ReplyDeleteI believe every vote still counts as far as the local governments and federal governments go. I believe that I still have a say in what I believe in. The majority still rules. My votes may not always be the winning decision, but at least I live in a country where I have a say in who makes the major decisions for me.
Patti S 70 in response to Leila C. I agree and disagree that in an election it is about who has the most money wins the election. I agree money helps get the nominee out there and noticed. It also helps get his or her view to the people where as a nominee who does not have as much money can not get to as many people. So, I think it usually comes down to a couple of primary choices depending on debates and yes, money.
ReplyDeleteMauriceR
ReplyDeleteYes… I believe that our government is still “of and for the people” and every vote still counts; especially if you are valued, encouraged, allowed, and uphold the values in citizenship. Unfortunately, most American voters aren’t aware how much that their political views and choices are influenced by our fleeting emotions, lobbyists, corporate donors, 24 hour media spin, peer groups, religion, and tradition.
As the saying goes, “Vote for the lesser of two evils.” Therefore, my goal when voting is to: research the issue(s) from all sides, vote according to the benefit to the societal (communal) whole, and closely reflect my religious and moral beliefs.
We have forgotten what it means to be a citizen. We are often waiting for “those people” or someone else to start the charge: while we sit idly on the side lines watching fake ‘reality’ shows, comparing ourselves with “The Jones”, and commenting without action. Today, there is an air of complacency, even in this economic downturn. Most of us with/without jobs have allowed ourselves to feel helpless and hopeless; possibly due to fear and our self-centered definition of success and self-worth. Why not rally and protest our current situation? We have the time, voice, and numbers; then, our governing representatives will have listen. Isn’t that what the citizens did in Egypt, Libya, and Afghanistan recently?
MelanieP.70
ReplyDeleteNo, I do not believe our government is by the people or for the people.
At one point I'm sure it was, however if the government consisted of real people then it wouldn't be made up of 90% wealthy caucasians. It is clearly not for the people,there are so many other factors involved in political decisions, money for example.
MelanieP.70 in response to Lelia C.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely, money rules everything in this day and age. I don't know of any poor people who have any kind of power or validity. Maybe the lower class is at fault for yielding to the rich and powerful, for getting discouraged when its time to vote because our issues aren't the same as "their" issues. Who knows.
I think that locally people still have power over what happens in their community & their voices are still heard, however on the big stage votes and influence come with a price. As long as corporations and other wealthy individuals can lobby and influence through purchasing politicians, than the common American will never have their voice heard.
ReplyDeleteDomenic R.70
ReplyDeleteI do believe that our government is walking a thin line of not being "for the people". America being the beautiful country that it is, full of opportunity, and it's so hard for us to find a decent President. "We the people", are doing a poor job in who we pick to represent us. It is not only the government's fault for the corruption, but ours as well.
Every vote counts. If we don't vote, then we can't complain.
Domenic R.70
ReplyDeleteIn response to Melissa D.
If these corporations are so corrupt, please stop using their products. Nothing makes more of a statement than hurting their business. All corporations are going to look out for themselves. If you are a Republican, know that the iphone may not be for you. If you're a Democrat, know that Georgia Pacific is not your paper towel. Disney gives more to Republicans than Democrats, if that bothers you leave the giant mouse alone.
Latanya K-95
ReplyDeleteThe people who run for government postions always come with these elaborate speeches and all these big promises of how they're going to make changes to better the people and our country. To me, the problem lyes is when they actually get into office, many of those promises are never met. Example... The housing and jobs crises were two of our biggest problem. The banks and the car manufactures were balied out, explain why we are still loosing our homes and jobs? It's like the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Our votes may count getting an official elected, but afterwards it doesn't matter. Look how long it took to get a job bill signed. I'm dissapointed in our government and how slow their response is to help whose really in need. I'm sure not everyone may feel the same as i do, just my opionion.
Latanya K-95 in response tp Jason H-67
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement Jason when you referenced "It's unfortunate, because too often times we vote for candidates that we think are looking for our own interest and eventually we come to find out that they are not."
It's a shame that we find out what they're motives are after there elected. I have a question... What does that say about us? Should we not base our votes soley off of promises? Should our whole system of voting elected officals into office be revamped?
Kudi
ReplyDeleteNO, I do not believe that our government is still “of the people and for the people”. I believe that our government for sale to the highest bidder.
Megan C.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest I don't really feel like one vote changes much. It's unfortunate ,but I think most younger people feel this way. I feel like government has displayed the trickle down effect. Everyone who is higher up, has power, or money makes the decisions and it effects everyone lower than them.
Maria S
ReplyDeleteI am a dreamer so I do believe that people have the power ... but I am also realistic in seeing that people are distracted by their need to be happy, confortable, and not troubled. Opportunities are not equal... our country is a republic. We, the people do not vote to make things happen. We vote to elect people who will hopefully make things happen. Who are the possible candidates that we so often must choose from?... Rich people. Why? It is because in this country we have rules and regulations that perpetuate this reality. Either the person is well connected and he/she is being supported by corporations, special interest groups, or even unions. Also, the candidate is allow to use unlimited amount of their own money to support their own campaign...In conclusion, Money governs our country. And what do we do about it? not much. Most of us believe that it is what it is. I have also heard my vote wouldn't change anything. I'm sure that corporation USA is happy to hear that. They would probably worry if instead people were becoming more inform about our economy, or if people actually knew and communicated with their senators and representatives. I understand that the tools of persuation are the same, whether people or lobbyist, whenever trying to get their way in congress... The only difference is that they (the lobbyist) are more powerful, have more money, and they are doing their job every chance they got. We (the people) are the great majority, we need to become passionate about it to. We need to be educated in the facts of economics, political science, and understand the meaning of Plutocracy... "government of the wealthy", and understand that the lobbyist works for the Plutocracy. We need to become more familiar with those individuals that represent us... and we need to fired them when they are not doing what is in the best of our interest...
As a citizen who doesn't vote, I don't vote for a reason. I do not think that the government is still "of the people and for the people. I took notice in most elections, online polls, news polls and other ways of tracking the votes in recent elections, and I began to notice how our vote doesn't honestly count, I think of it like this, we may get like 1% of a vote, but the people in congress and the government honestly have a stronger say in the votes. Granted one percent is still a number, but is it really enough?
ReplyDeleteP.S the one percent isn't factual I just exaggerated because it's what it feels like.
Tracey D (67)
ReplyDeleteSadly, it appears that at this time that the Government has been corrupted by the Big Banks, PAC's and political donations. I believe that this perception is shared by both people on the left and right. This is the primary reason for the rise of both the "occupy" and "Tea Party" movements. As for the goverment being "for the people" only when the people get back involved, force change and accountability of their leaders will there be any change. Then every vote will actually count.
Meghan Williams
ReplyDeleteI do not feel that our government is "of the people and for the people", i think it used to be that way when our country was founded but that is not the case today. I feel as though my vote does not count so i dont vote, i feel like its a waste of time. It usually comes down to money and whoever has the most money is going to win the election.
Tracey D (67) - In response to Melissa D
ReplyDeleteI agree. Large corporations and Banks which were allowed to be " too big to fail" have too much control over the Congress. It is time for the big banks to be broken up just as Standard Oil and the Railroad Trusts were broken up in the early 20th Century by President Roosevelt!
I would have to say that the words sound great! I do believe that our government is still “of the people, but not for the people” or that every vote counts. The government has gotten so corrupt and have forgot those exact words. The government is only about the rich and high powered. If the stood by those words the world would be a better place.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Meghan about the government. However, I do disagree when it comes to voting. Everyone should vote it is your right, if everyone stops voting because of their views the world would be in a much worse situation. Next thing we know, they will be changing the right to vote, if we don't take advantage of our right. Maybe one day the government will get back to of and for the people, and every vote will count!
ReplyDeleteDana M. 70
ReplyDeleteNo I do not think our government is for the people. I am not interested in politics for this very reason. Whats the point? Our government is based on who has the most money and who know the "right" people. If it were they wouldn't spend millions on campaigns instead feeding all the starving children in this country. I sit think about how many children could be helped with all that money and makes me sick to my stomach. I have never understood why they need so much money to stand at a microphone and tell every one their views and what they stand for. Spending all that money on a campaign tells me what they stand for. THEMSELVES!!
OCTAVIUS G
ReplyDeleteIts all about power that determines the running of the government. The special interest and lobbyist do not really care about the common man but about their businesses. Anytime a government is putting measures to protect the people, these lobbyist try to rob that by funding politicians who will go in and oppose those measures. This denies the the government its role 'of the people and for the people' since the powerful are interfering.
Voting is a vital process which really counts. If all would see the sense in it, there are those good politicians who are really willing to fight for people and if we would support them by voting them in, things would be different. Ignorance will never change things to the better but to worse.
Dana M. 70
ReplyDeleteIn response to Leila C.
I agree completely. The almighty dollar has more of a say so than we the people do. When you are someone like me who will NEVER see that kind of money it is very discouraging.
In a perfect world I would believe that the government is of the people and for the people and that every votes count. But we do not live in a perfect world. The government is not always for the people. It is like Chuck Norris is always saying "It is not what the government can do for you but what you can keep the government from doing to you." That is not exactly what he said but pretty close, in other words if you don't vote, you can't complain. With the corporations having the control of the almighty dollar and the little people having none, well that tells us that if we don't try and vote then we really don't know if our votes count or not.
ReplyDeleteIn response to SarahHo1...I agree with you..most people don't care if it does not affect their world.
ReplyDeleteOctavio P41
ReplyDeleteSeveral times in my life I had the opportunity to be what most people referred to as “the fly on the wall”. It is not a pleasant experience to learn how easily and arbitrarily many people rise to certain positions or attain certain statuses in our society.
The relationship that C. Wright Mills described in his book The Power Elite (1956) between the political, military and economic elites was a sociological view of how these three powerful institutions dominate our society driven by their common interests, interests that supersede those of the masses based on the premise of their superiority.
In my opinion, it is not a characteristic owned by the American society alone, but a cultural phenomenon across the board in any given society through human history. I believe it’s part of human nature.
Election Day in our democratic society means the most important tool people have to voice their sentiments and ambitions for a better life.
When the ballot includes special issues that will be decided by the majority of the constituency, I will agree that the people’s decision prevail. When we take in consideration the amount of money candidates need to run a political campaign, I must accept the fact that character takes a back seat to the depth of their supporters’ pockets. Promises attached to those investments must be kept if the elected candidate wants to perpetuate his position.
We have the Kennedy’s, the Bush’s, the Clinton’s…families that have dominated the political arena for decades, not only because of their legacy but also because of the power that those names represent in our society. Another issue is the way we scrutinize the people that run for office. Very decent people are afraid of running for office because they refuse to have their families dragged through the mud (sometimes without justification).
Sadly, in my opinion, we go to the voting booth year after year electing candidates that do not reflect our ideals or opinions fully. So many times we heard someone talk about the “least of two evils”. I do not want to vote for evil; I want to vote for good and decent. Many good and decent people will never reach the seat needed to make real change happen because, they weren’t born in the right family, nor do they belong to the right social circle. However once in a blue moon, we are lucky and get someone that decides to commit political suicide, and do what’s right while in power.
Octavio P.41 in response to Maria S.
ReplyDeleteVery well said Maria. Never stop dreaming, but recognize your present reality so your dreams could have a better chance of becoming true. Money might run many things, but it will never run the conscience of good, decent people.
I think that "of the people, for the people", rather than being a certain state of affairs bequeathed to us, is rather an ideal to be constantly striven for. As our country has strayed for its founding principles of limited government and maximum freedom (yes, I realize that when the country was founded, and for some time afterward, freedom was not enjoyed by all), and the federal government has inexorably encroached upon the rights that the Constitution and Bill of Rights preserved for the individual and the States, we have seen a very predictable trend.....the more federal power exerted over money/business, the more groups will spend their time/money to influence the government.....thereby lessening the influence "of the people/for the people". As to your question about whether "every vote counts"....it depends.....in areas where vote-generating/fraud machines like ACORN exist and are actively working, there is a commensurate lessening of the value of all legitimate votes......which is a pretty strong argument for the idea of requiring identification to vote, since most would agree that voting is at least as important as buying a six-pack of beer.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Octavio P41....
ReplyDeleteYou said, "Very decent people are afraid of running for office because they refuse to have their families dragged through the mud (sometimes without justification)."
I agree with you on this. I've followed pretty closely the recent allegations of sexual harassment against Herman Cain, and read as much as I could about the accusers, etc. I found that there was absolutely nothing to support the allegations, the two accusers who came forward publicly were not credible in the least, and that it was just a 'smear job'. While I admire Cain for sticking it out and all, I have to think that the vast majority of honest normal people out there would never want to subject themselves and their families to this kind of treatment.
Sharise H. 70
ReplyDeleteI don't want this to sound like I am taking the easy way out but I am studying to become a Jehovah's Witness and we do not exercise our right to vote. I understand that unless we vote we are subjected to whatever outcome however we choose not to put our trust in man and place people into office. No matter how good their intentions are they simply cannot "fix" this system of things. Can they temporarily place a band-aid over the situation? Possibly.
ToniaD15
ReplyDeleteDo I believe that our government is "of the people and for the people?" No. Majority of the government is made up of wealthy individuals who could care less about the lower class/poor individuals. These people definitely do not represent the average American. I do believe that having the option to vote allows us to have some say in how the government is ran, by choosing an individual to represent us and our beliefs.
In response to Kudi.....
Simply put; "the government is for sale to the highest bidder." I most definitely agree. Money rules everything.
Sadly NO, I do not think that our government is of the people and for the people. The rich is getting richer and the poor is getting poorer. I strongly believe the government is a bit selfish and "the people" don't really have a say on anything, it what the government wants rather than what the people want. The irony of the Pledge of Allegiance.
ReplyDeleteMary O-70
ReplyDeleteI do believe our country is "of the people" but sadly our government is not always 'for the people". Politics in general are about money and power. Those who have the money control the power. That does not mean we should not let our voice heard and it is very important to vote. We can make changes if we the people stay strong and stand for what we believe in. History shows that successful events occur for those who perservere.
Mary O-70
ReplyDeleteIn response to Octavio
Very interesting reply and I agree
with your comment " Ignorance will never change things to the better but to worse."
yes every vote does count because at least if your favorite candidate doesnt win the rest of america can found out why why youchose him or her and so will the next president. he or she will know what the people are worried about and become an even better president by taking the good cues from their competition and making them happen. the onlyproblem with voting is when someone votes to be a part of group as opposed to someone who votes because he orshe agrees with a candidate's views
ReplyDeleteand even when we pick the right person all things dont magicly get better and the past just dissapears some thingsneed tact , some things need force, some things god alone can fix and sometime things get done but i dont thinks its as easy as everyone makes it out to be...not everyone runs for president for a reason.
ReplyDeleteandd just because we dont think our govt is for us doesnt mean someone isnt trying i think i sometimes means their ideas to help us just arent working and we have to just be patient for the onewith the answer to come and hope we choose them for office and other positions leading out country
Constance Cooper 67
ReplyDeleteI no longer believe that our government is for the people. Our world has turned into such a greedy place that to me it seems like the government is there to help themselves before anyone and then to look like they care. With so much stuff going on these days in our government i find it hard to believe that every vote actually counts. Sure to some extent what the people vote for and want my actually happen, but i feel as though at the same time us voting for it means its a suggestion for them now but they dont have to act on it, even if the whole world agrees.
C cooper 67
ReplyDeletein response to seleena
I agree, we pledge to a flag all the times but I dont think our government still stand for what the pledge means. They do what the can to keep themselves happy and to keep the people with money and power happy. But what about everyone else? do we just not exist anymore to them? They dont care about us. as long as were paying taxes they're happy where they're at. but one day the middle and lower class will get tired of it all again and we'll have a new version of the boston tea party. a much bigger version. One that they wont be able to ignore. and hopefully it works.
Andrea B. (67)
ReplyDeleteI believe that our government is neither “of the people” nor “for the people.” We elect leaders that appear to have our best interest at heart, but after taking office, they show little or no interest in those issues that seemed to be of shared importance. Our elected leaders appear to be one of us (the people) when trying to get into office, but afterwards we look at their actions, the things they are supporting or the things they refuse to support, and ask whether they even know of us ( that people like us exist – the homeless, jobless, insurance-less). We ask, “Who are these people, what walk of life they came from?” They don’t seem very much like they are “of the people”.
As for if they are “for the people” and whether our votes count. I hear “the people” saying we need jobs, we are losing our homes, we need a health care system that works, we need to have social security in our old age; I also hear “the people” saying don’t tax us because we have more money, we don’t want the government having control over our health care choices, we should be free to source the services we need from where ever we can get it cheapest (even if it’s overseas). In as much as all of that is being said, the government only seems to be hearing and complying with “some people.” So the question becomes, “Who are “the people” the government is for?” Our votes makes a difference when we use it wisely; when we research the people we are using it to support, ensure that they have integrity and a true passion for those things we consider important, and when we follow through to ensure that they stay on target (that they do what they said they would do). There is nothing stronger than ‘the collective’ - a lone voice in the wilderness might not be heard, but when many voices come together in unison there is no drowning it out.
My mother always says two things about voting, “Always vote! Your vote may be the tie breaker,” and “Stand for something, or you will fall for anything.” I know she got that from somewhere else, but I got it from her.
Andrea B. (67) in response to Maria S
ReplyDeleteMaria, though I’m a pragmatist, I love your post. I believe the difference between the lobbyists and “the people” is that the lobbyists are working for the money, whereas “the people” should be working for their life (their livelihood, quality of life, equal opportunities, all that the constitution sort to secure.) If anything, we “the people” should have more fight in us than the lobbyist because there is nothing like a man fighting for his life. Instead, as you rightfully said, we use our vote hoping to get someone to fight for us. They use our power to get where they want to be then seek their own interest, or the interest of whoever pays best. What awesome power we would have if we invested in ourselves and joined forces to stand together. I guess to an extent I agree with the conflict theory, because I think only when we (the majority) unify, when we stop being too lazy and complacent about the injustices we suffer daily, will anything change for the better.
Brisa L. 70
ReplyDeleteI believe that voting is important because if we don't vote we give a free ride to the government to do whatever they want to do with our money, country and military. I believe we should vote for people who are “of the people and for the people” to represent us at the local, state and federal level.
Brisa L.70 in response to Patti S 70
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Patti, we need to support our representatives who wants the best for the people.
Our government is still "of the people, for the people". We have the power to put people in office or take them out. If 300,000 republicans, or democrats don't vote, that could sway an election.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Brisa L. 70,
Exactly, if we don't vote we give the power to someone else and end up complaining about it.
Daquan F-70
ReplyDeleteI do agree that every vote counts in some way and "some" of the government are for the people. If it wasn't then our lives would probably be much worse than they are now. I do believe that much of the government is corrupt, and if certain officials in the government need a sway in the voting, they will receive it. Also, the government is run by man, and man far from perfect, there will always be greed and a power-struggle within it.
In response to Jason H-67
I agree with you, little people that are in the way, get the shorter end of the stick. Especially in a time of crisis. Something that also bothers me is that, every presidential candidate claims to care about the poor and lower-class. Yet none that have won an election, has ever let a lower class citizen stay in their enormous white house.
I think that this is a loaded question. It is not a question of if the government is corrupt, but a question of how corrupt. I believe that the smaller more local governments are less corrupt as they cannot get away with the large scale corruption that our congressmen get away with. In terms of voting, I believe the same. In the smaller scale elections I can see my vote counting, literally in some of the local elections. I believe that power corrupts, and that the more that people in power are enticed by these lobbyists, the more the temptation is increased.
ReplyDeleteMsherer 69
ReplyDeleteYes, I still believe that the government is of the people and for the people. I feel our government does the best they can to try to help people of all classes and social rankings, and to assist in providing all with the opportunity to be successful in this wonderful country. Whether it be through tax breaks, stimulus packages, or welfare, etc, I feel that the government would do none of the above if they were not "for the people."
Msherer 69
ReplyDeleteIn response to Megan C.
I do not agree with the statement:
"To be honest I don't really feel like one vote changes much."
If everyone who had this mindset went out and voted it would be one heck of a huge voting block. Every single vote counts, and the fact that people died so that we can have this right should be enough motivation for everyone to vote.
I don't believe that the government is still for the people. I think the government is only for power. There are too many special interests and loopholes. This is not how the founding fathers saw our future.
ReplyDeleteLinuel S67
Frank J 67
ReplyDeleteThis country hasn't had a government that was "for the people, by the people" in many decades! The last president who had this view was John F. Kennedy which ultimately lead to his assassination. It is now "for the biggest bank account, by the ones who contribute the most to campaigns". Government is more concerned with keeping their lobbyist's and special interest groups happy because they are the ones that finance presidential campaigns in order to get their agendas through. Special interest groups only speak for a small amount of the american people but as the old saying goes "he who pays the piper calls the tune". As far as "every vote counts" doesn't really hold true anymore which was apparent in the 2004 "recount" Election "mix up" in Florida. Our votes counted before they went digital. I also think our votes would count more if we had a direct election where they tally the votes, and the highest total won.
In response to Constance Cooper 67
ReplyDeleteLinuel S67
I couldn't have said it better! Our opinions seem like a suggestion. If they want something bad enough, the politicians will do what they want whether we the people want it or not.
I personally don't think that saying means what it used to mean. Now I believe it is "of the people, for the people" as long as I can make it benefit higher people in the long run. I like to think that every vote counts but I can't say that it does for sure but i still vote anyway.
ReplyDeleteJasmine Jackson67
ReplyDeleteI personally don't think that saying means what it used to mean. Now I believe it is "of the people, for the people" as long as I can make it benefit higher people in the long run. I like to think that every vote counts but I can't say that it does for sure but i still vote anyway.
In response to Tracey D 67
ReplyDeleteThose 2 movements prove one thing. That we as a nation and citizens of this once great and free nation have to mainly one thing, study the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. Many people know the reason for the Revolutionary War, taxes. But do most people know the amount of that last tax that sparked the Revolution?? A 2% tax increase......2%!!!! I've seen a bumper that couldn't be more true of our time versus our fore fathers, it says "Our fore fathers would be shooting by now". We as citizens need to break the walls of this 2 party system and cut the childish "my team is better than your team" mentality and ALL join under the American Party and stand up and voice our redresses with our Government!
Jasmine Jackson67
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I don't believe that saying at all. I don't believe every vote counts but in some cases people's opinion does matter. But the government is full of people that were born wealthy so I feel like they look out for themselves and people like them.
By BJ C... I believe that it is important to vote. I am a registered voter and I always take the time to vote for all issues large and small but I don't believe that the government is for the people any more. Yes it is still by the people but the government will always find a way to get what they want when they want it. It won't matter how we vote we are only offer ideas up to them. They will get what they want in the end.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the government is still of the people and for the people. However, I say that because the power to elect the officials is still in our hands and they do have duties to perform in their respective offices. So it goes without saying that I still believe that every vote counts. I do believe that 99% of politicians abuse their power because it is a national trend. Everyone else is doing it so why don't they. So to sum my comment, they are still of the people and for the people, so long as that doesn't conflict with them being for themselves.
well i guess it is of the people but im definitely not saying by the people or for the people. i dont see in every vote counting. if you want to stand out large numbers voice better.
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i like how you put it so point blank. i agree i think the government is only for power and i definitely dont think the founding fathers saw this coming.
BJ C in response to Funkwagon
ReplyDelete"In the smaller scale elections I can see my vote counting, literally in some of the local elections."
I totally agree with this statement. I really feel as if my vote has more of a chance of counting and meaning something if it is a smaller home town election. The higher up you get the corrupt the system gets and the more political policy comes into play.
JosephW-67
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I'm glad to see someone with similar feelings on the subject. I wanna see some Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged action happen to our government.
Samisha S67
ReplyDeletePersonally, I do not believe that our government is still “of the people and for the people” and that every vote count. I think that the government is going to do what they want to do regardless. However, I still feel that people should vote. I do not think you should ever stop fighting for what you believe in, because you never know, what changes can be made.
I think that "every vote counts" still, reason being that no one can get elected without more votes than the other candidate. However, there is so much "political garbage" and things that more wealthy people want that does not seem to help the majority of the people in the country, the middle classes, with what they really need, that Special Interest lobbyists may not be getting the most important needs recognized these days. Also, PACs and other means of support seem to be doing whatever it takes for some to get elected, but not for the right reasons. This takes the focus off of changes that truly need to be made, and that is why this country has to work through the exact same problems for so long with such slow change and improvement. So it is hard to say that this country is still "of the people and for the people" because majority does rule as for the votes of the people, but the changes that are made in this country seem to lean more towards the needs of 'specific' people, not 'the' people, as a whole.
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Samisha S
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I agreed with you totally. I think that we all should vote, especially on major issue, but at then of the day, it is up to them.
Thomas L 67
ReplyDeleteOf course the government is still for the people. If they were n`t we would all notice really quick. I believe the government is still for the people because they have made up regulations that take away your voting privileges. If you are a felon then you cant vote, that has its advantages and disadvantages. People complain why elections are so one sided, just imagine if people who were felons or people could vote from prison. Would they be so one sided then?
Thomas L 67 in response to JosephW 67
ReplyDeleteI also agree, sometimes it feels as if that one percent of power they don abuse is no state taxes in Florida. haha
In response to Samisha S67...
ReplyDeleteI do strongly agree with what you are saying. The government IS going to do what they want regardless, and it is going to lean more toward benefitting those who possess most of the country's funds (the upperclass), and therefore: it's "resources." And I agree with your saying that people should not stop fighting for what they believe in, because even though positive change may happen very slowly for most of the people in this country, it is not impossible for them to make a difference over time.
-Niyah Miles
I believe that every vote does count, on a local level especially. As far as presidential elections, I'd like to say that each vote is important as well. The electoral college has gone against the popular vote only a handful of times, so I think this shows that "we the people" still has some validity.
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ReplyDeleteI do think that the government is for the people and that every voice is counted. I think the real issue is that the politician need to aware that the people are voting for them for a reason, and that is to care about them, getting Americans to care enough and also research the issues and make their opinions with the public help. So the people need to participate election, go out and vote on what you think will benefit the country. You vote for President and you vote for the Senate, you put those people into office because you agreed with them that they will help build the country, so you have to stand by them, and keep in touch by voicing your opinion every day for them to stay on their toes
Ryan H, 69
ReplyDeleteI believe that our government is still for the people. It has plenty of issues that need repair, but it is in better shape than it was when it was created and is still improving. With that said, I feel that every vote counts as long as you vote Democrat or Republican. I think we need to “level the playing field” so that the major independent parties are equally represented during an election. They could provide the fresh ideas needed to make this country or even the world better.
Ryan H, 69 in response to everyone
ReplyDeleteI notice quite a few people feel that our government is corrupt and only cares about money and power. I also noticed that some of the same people posted two blogs ago that the Occupy Atlanta protesters were lazy freeloaders looking for handouts. They actually feel the same way about the government as you do, but they are trying to do something about it. Sometimes civil disobediance counts more than a vote.
Michelle J.
ReplyDeleteI do not have opinion on this subject, since I desire to stay neutral to the political affairs of this world. I do believe the only real solution to mankind’s problems is a universal government instituted by man’s Creator, Jehovah God. I have come to appreciate His Kingdom through a systematic study of His Word, the Bible, which states that His government began ruling in 1914 and will soon crush the kingdoms of this world, so it may bring prosperity to all as Psalms 72:1, 16 states it would. It says, “O God, give your own judicial decisions to the king,
And your righteousness to the son of the king 16 There will come to be plenty of grain on the earth; On the top of the mountains there will be an overflow. His fruit will be as in Leb´a•non,
And those who are from the city will blossom like the vegetation of the earth.” So as to the question, “do I believe that our government is still “of the people and for the people” and that every vote counts?" My reply is yes because my vote is for God's Kingdom which addresses the concerns of the entire inhabited earth. And this government will take into account the sanctification of Jehovah’s name and sovereignty.
In this day and age it can be debated as to whether every vote counts. One reason being that as noted in the textbook only about 60% of the population in America vote. Another reason has to do with were you live and the way that votes are tallied. To many it feels good to think that your vote has a direct impact on certain issues. To some extent it does, to another extent it does not.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct that Jehovah's Kingdom is the only real solution to mankind's problems; we have come to believe in the promises that the bible foretells. Most of the comments demonstrate that the majority of people are fed up with the Governmental Authorities and that they want something better than what we have now. Just a little while longer...
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ReplyDeleteI believe we are somewhat still "of the people and for the people” depending on the subject and situation. Sometimes every vote counts, but sometimes it doesn't matter what the "people" want because things are still going to happen without the "people's" say so.
Isabelle 44
ReplyDeleteI think that the government is there for us and that our vote count but I don't think that are taking every one vote in consideration. Sometimes they have common sens within our society and they have to make the right decision whether is not majority but it is for the right reason I don't think selling Alcohol on Sunday is a wise decision to me we still see a lot of drunk drivers out there and...
Renee A 67
ReplyDeleteI think that the government trys to say they "are for the people" but are they really? We seem to have a lot of issues going on that continue and don't get resolved. I may only vote 1-2 times a year if there is something that I think will make a change but if not I don't make it to the polls. Yes, every vote counts, if you vote, but does it really make a difference!
No, I think the government is not for the people. When it comes time for elections they favor evrything the people want and they promise everything, but when they are elected everything changes. They really do not do what the people need or want. I think the votes do count but I think they still have a say in the final decision.
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ReplyDeleteSometimes I have to wonder myself if the government is still "for the people". When we go out and vote, im sure our opinions are taken into consideration but it comes down to what the government want to do, they will do. Every vote counts but does it really change anything? The government makes all these promises for change and make things better but somethings just never change!
SandraS/69
ReplyDeleteI'm not into politics or even understand alot of it for that matter. I really don't think it is still "for the people" anymore. I feel like if it was this country would not be in this mess that it is. To me its all about the politicians and the greed!! They want us to believe it is for us but its a lot of lip service and smoke blowing up our asses.
George M 67
ReplyDeleteI do not feel that every vote counts. I do vote for presidential elections because I feel that my ancestors fought for the right to vote so I cant just throw that away, but I also understand that the electoral college plays a more vital role in selecting the President than I do. I am indifferent to local elections as I feel some topics dont hit close to home when I dont have kids in schools, or property taxes.
George M 67 in response to Melanie P. 70
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about the wealthy. Money and politics go hand in hand, and a great percentage of the American public don't have money at the moment. The people with money back their candidate which in essence influences the election. So everyones vote doesnt really matter. Money matters.
Susette R. 67-
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, I have to say I don't think the government our our "political leaders" give two "you know whats" about the people. Sadly, our nation is taking a turn for the worse and is no longer a free country. It is a privileged one. We have the privilege of voting but who knows if our vote REALLY counts. I have always voted and will continue to but I'm not so sure it will really make a difference. The government has the power to lie and manipulate voting to put whoever they want in office and make whatever law they want to pass or fail.
In response to Megan G 70-
I agree with the false promises of change. If anything, our nation is changing for the worse. I dread hearing the news every day and hearing of how our government is raping us. Where is the positive change we were "promised" ?
I think that our vote counts to a certain extent but at the end of the day the government is gonna do whatever they want to do so at times our vote never does matter.
ReplyDeleteOur government is still “Of the people and for the people” but only to an extent. Through government corruption, special interests, and voter ignorance, voting will never prove to truly effective.
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