Do you think this sort of action teaches a lesson on modesty
or one on embarrassment? Before you answer think it through, why is it embarrassing
for a middle aged man to wear short shorts, and yet females from preteen to
middle age wear them every day, in all sorts of settings from coast to coast.
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Julie T. 46
ReplyDeleteI think this kind of thing would teach a teenage girl a lesson. I know if my dad put on daisy dukes because he did not like me wearing them, then I would not wear them around him anymore. This is rather hilarious and I do not blame the man for what he did. I also think it is embarrassing, but these days you have to do whatever it takes to teach someone a lesson.
I believe that it is a lesson in modesty and absolutely fabulous one! The sheer image of this Dad will potentially haunt this daughter for the rest of her life. My Dad showed up to the 6th grade dance in tiny house shorts, winter boots, and a big jacket in 30 degree weather to teach me the same lesson. Needless to say, I have never forgotten that moment and I have definitely have been more selective of how much skin I show out in the public eye!
ReplyDeleteVeronica M 47 in response to Msmessier77:
DeleteThat is such a great story. Your dad sounds fun. How do you think a young girl would have reacted if their mom did what your dad did? Where you less upset because it was dad?
Julie T. 46
ReplyDeleteI reply to Msmessier77, I completely agree with you. I do want to say sorry that your dad did this to you, but I can see that it taught you a lesson. I hope everyone else agrees with us because this is a great lesson.
Onyimah L.47
ReplyDeleteHmmmm!!!!This is a very interesting one Prof.LaPorte.I read this story in the news last week and had a discussion about it with some friends.I will admit that it could be both a lesson in modesty and embarrassment depending on who his teenage daughter is and how much she cares about what dad says or does.It would seem that she does not care so much about what dad thinks or says otherwise she would not have considered wearing it in the first place.So dad's action might not amount to any lesson now but might make sense five or ten years down the road.I was once a teenager and as a parent of a teenager now,I have come to the conclusion that sometimes life lessons are not often learned immediately and instantly, sometimes they take years to marinate and take effect.In this case as in every parent's situation,dad is worried about his daughter being typified as a sex object, or a victim of rape and a host of other justifiable fears that we have as parents, on the other hand, daughter might just want to look like her friends and wear what is in vogue.As a parent,I try to model modesty in appearance and hope that my teenager daughter uses me as a role model.
With that being said,it brings me to another issue I think we should consider, which I think is the real issue with the short shorts.I think the real issue is not short shorts.Think about it.What is wrong with it? The real issue is the non material aspect of our culture as a people which is the meanings we attach to a female wearing short shorts and that is also why it is embarrassing for a middle aged man to strut the streets in a daisy short.In my opinion, that is the issue here.Maybe someday, and I think we are getting close, when we will do away away with clothes and walk about naked.Maybe that will quench this societal uncanny curiosity to see or discover what each of us is hiding underneath our clothes.
Melissa Pope
DeleteI think that you nailed it on the head, lets all just be nudists! That would be the final cure to gender equality!!
Christina D.
DeleteAs the parent of both male and female teens, I agree with being a role model, and some lessons do take time to set in, however Im not going for everyone walking around naked. I guess I am a little more conservative on that topic.
BCurcio 47.
ReplyDeleteI do not think its embarrassing at all. A person is entitled to wear what he or she chooses. Great think about the USA, freedom of speech and freedom to wear what you please! I do not agree with young girls wearing such revealing clothes, but that's because I have a little girl and I never want her to or to have boys look at her. :) However, what ever a person is comfortable wearing, or how they do their hair, shouldn't define who a person is. I do not agree with onyimaah, I understand the concept of what you are saying, but I am not sure I would ever want my children, parents or grandparents being need. Even back in the day they wore little covers over certain areas. The body is a temple, not something for everyone to see. Husband and wives sacred value is laying in bed together, to treasure and explore and be the only ones to know each others bodies.
Danielle Templer 47.
ReplyDeleteI believe that this father completely embarrassed his daughter while teaching her a bigger lesson, modesty. Lets face it, in today's world cleavage, butt cracks, and bellies are exposed for all to see. In dressing that way he showed his daughter that exposing yourself that way is not as attractive as what she perceives it to be.
I agree with Danielle Templer. As a mother of a teenage girl. I constantly struggle with her wardrobe. She's well endowed and larger frame so she struggles with trying to wear the trends. But not all trends are equal for all body shapes. Most people don't really know how others perceive them especially when it comes to clothing. The father did what he felt he had to do to make a point. Let's face it the same old parenting of talking it out doesn't work for all kids. Some kids need harsher examples. I commend him for thinking outside the box and dishing a little embarrassment back to his daughter. It doesn't matter who, what side, and at what age, provocative clothing in most settings are awkward for everyone who has to see it.
DeleteWhat wrong with short shorts? Yes, it's odd for a middle aged man to wear them. However, it's completely normal for girls to wear them. The father is only trying to protect his daugher from wondering eyes. He's trying to show his daughter what it is like to be in someone elses shoes. After seeing this, i'm sure she'll think twice clothing choices in the future.
ReplyDeleteTinaP91 I definitely agree with your opinion. Many women are going to sit here and say that she did nothing wrong. What they fail to realize is that in a father's eyes, she is saying "come get me" to all the men she passes". Her dad is trying to eliminate that kind of negative attention toward his baby girl.
DeleteVery funny! I can appreciate his battle with his daughter. Been there, done that! But, I would have to sway more on the embarrassment side of things. I don't think he's going to get his point across to her by wearing the shorts himself. If anything, she'll stop wearing them only to get him to stop wearing them. Maybe he should have let her listen in on a male conversation regarding some scantily dressed women so she could hear for herself what men really think and expect from women who dress a certain way. Even though the world is geared toward youth and beauty, I think we all could play closer attention to what we wear at times. I'm pretty sure I've worn something that a younger person probably whispered behind my back about.
ReplyDeleteJosh C.55 in reply to Veronica Moss
DeleteMe being a 20 year old male I completely agree with you when it comes to what guys think and say when you see a woman wearing some very revealing clothing. Most men are just pigs and all they think about is sex. When women expose themselves like that its like dangling a dog treat in front of a dog. I know how a lot of guys that I know act when we see a woman wearing very little clothing. It's just one derogatory comment after another, its like all they care about is getting some. With that being said, women should consider what kind of message their sending when they choose to wear revealing clothing.
Leah Botello 47
ReplyDeleteI absolutely loved this when I saw it on the news! What a great father. Too many parents today do not teach their children what modesty is and with Hollywood and society in general condoning this type of behavior in fashion it is very hard to keep the young teenage girls in modest clothes. This father was trying to teach his daughter a lesson, an embarrassing one, but a great one. He was so concerned about her appearance that he went to extremes, but I think he got his point across. He is also probably concerned about the way she dresses because of sexual predators. I really don't know why it is acceptable for women to wear short shorts and men not to....I would say that men's legs are hairy and probably less appealing to see an upper thigh! But I honestly think that women and teenage girls should not be wearing super short shorts, of course that is relative depending on the person and what their definition of short is. I believe society needs to get back to more modesty, it seems it is becoming more acceptable to dress half naked these days. Too bad Hollywood wouldn't make it "popular" to dress showing less skin.
Claire M. 46 in response to Leah B. 47
DeleteYes, it is sad that media has so much influence on everything from clothing to religious beliefs. Why would we want to look like a person we have never even met or idolize them for believing something we know nothing about? I am glad I'm not caught up in all that mess...probably one of the reasons my dad never had to resort to using this tactic on me..
Brenden D.
ReplyDeletei think this is hilarious. the father is embarrassing himself to teach his daughter a great point, which is a good thing. at the same time this is still extremely embarrassing, but good for him for being a good father and looking out for his daughters best interest
Leah Botello 47 in response to Veronica Moss:
ReplyDeleteI love your idea of having a parent make their child listen to male conversation regarding a scantily dressed woman! I think that would give a teenage girl more to think about and how the way she dresses could be attracting the wrong attention. I believe that the parents are going to be the strongest influence on their children outside of peers. And since teenagers do not have the cognitive development yet, it is up to their parents to make decisions for them to keep them out of harms way. Great post, Veronica!
Kayley F.
ReplyDeleteIf I were in the situation, I honestly would not stop wearing short shorts. Truthfully, I would take a picture with my dad while we both wore them. It's just the type of person I am. Society has taught girls of all ages that short shorts are exceptable. Men wearing short shorts is seen as embarrassing though because you don't see middle aged men posing in magazines with them on. Fashion is thrown at us on a daily basis, without thinking we will judge someone by what they are wearing. Because of the fashion industry it's a bit awkward for dad to wear daisy dukes.
Kayley F. in response to Veronica Moss:
ReplyDeleteI like that you thought of another way the father could have taught his daughter the lesson , but girls know what guys are saying. Decades back, women would have been appauled at what men said, but teenage girls are much more revealing nowadays. Girls have iphones, heels, and make up that are in middle school when I didn't have a phone until high school. Point is that girls are being forced into "womanhood" or "adulthood" much faster than decades back. When girls get dressed to go out with friends they make sure their boobs look perky and their bum looks nice. I might have gone on a rant, my apologies, but point is that girls know what guys are saying and they like the attention.
Marissa M. 55
DeleteAgreed! Girls do know what guys are saying and they like the attention! They will stand in the mirror for a while and hope they go out to have someone notice. That is also because they have pressure to look and act a certain way.
Chelsea W.55
ReplyDeletePersonally speaking, I don't see how this would teach any type of lesson to a daughter. If my dad has a problem with my shorts, he'll definitely tell me. And me being me, I respect my father so I'd try to buy longer shorts. Now if I felt my dad was being ridiculous and I just couldn't part ways from my daisy dukes, then him wearing short shorts wouldn't get me to part ways with them either. I wouldn't be embarrassed just more so annoyed. I do however believe the embarrassment would fall on my father. Not because he's a man wearing short shorts, but rather because my father wouldn't look that great in them.
Charles D.46 responding to Chelsea W.55
DeleteMaybe this father have a problem communicating with his daughter. Teenagers feel that they know everything in life anyway. Self-respect is a good thing, we have to achieve it within ourselves. If a person does not respect herself or himself, usually, no one cares. This father being a single parent, no support from any else, when you don't know what to do. The results are can be embarrassing.
Marissa M. 55
ReplyDeleteThis would probably not stop a young, or older girl for that matter, from wearing short shorts. She would most likely be embarrassed. This is humorous though! Many girls would try and take a picture with their dad who did this. Society has made it acceptable for women and girls to wear this type of clothing.
Oneisha F 46
DeleteYes I agree with that. Its not like his daughter is going to have some sort of an Epiphany and be like " oh now I get it". Shes probably just going to try to forget that embarrassing moment in her life and wear her shorts like always.
Chelsea W.55 in response to BCurcio 47.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you completely. Everyone should be able to wear what he or she chooses and feel comfortable wearing it. However, what they wear shouldn't define that person at all. It shouldn't, but honestly in this society it very much does.
Oneisha F. 46
ReplyDeletePersonally, This isnt really proving anything. Short Shorts are a type a fashion that girls like to wear. Some like them. Some don't. If I think shorts make me feel good about myself and not just trying attract attention so why would I "listen" to what other people think. I understand why the dad did it. But come on, you can go in any teen closet and find some shorts. Its a fashion trend that you cant help.
Norma C.41
ReplyDeleteAfter what her dad did the girl won't wear short shorts around him anymore. I think this dad is only trying to protect his daughter and teach her a lesson by trying to make his daughter feel the same way he feels when she wears shorts , in my opinion he is doing it the right way because many parents think that grounding or yelling at their sons or daughters will solve the problem.
Lindsey H. 47
DeleteI agree with you. He does a good job of proving his point without being harsh.
TinaP91 As a woman, I can honestly say that this dad was not only teaching her a lesson about not following his rules, but also trying to protect her. My father has also taught me that when in his house I have to obey his rules. Which shows difficult when we all get older and form our own opinions. Also, I know that presentation is key. A woman who presents herself in a provocative manner is more likely to be exposed to provocative behavior. This is a point no person can change my opinion on because I have lived the experiences and tested the theories on myself. Do I think he needed to wear those shorts? Uhm no. But that is his choice of parenting tactics and there is no right or wrong way to parent. Its different for all people.
ReplyDeleteJazzmin B. 41
ReplyDeleteIn society eyes its okay for women to wear short shorts because of social media. It has been this way for many decades. If a man was to wear short shorts then it seen as disgusting because its not what society is use to due to social media. If social media did not discriminate towards men wearing short shorts then this would not be an issue.
Lindsey H. 47
ReplyDeleteI think it was more of a lesson in embarrassment, but for the daughter not the dad. She was obviously embarrassed even though she didn't seem to be at first. I agree with the father on his belief that your appearance tells alot about what kind of person you are. Having said that though I believe you should dress how you want to just keep in mind the fact that if you dress in a manner that is disrespectful to others (showing parts of your body that everybody does not want to see) then you might be treated disrespectfully, or looked upon in a different light.
Staci M 47
ReplyDeleteI do believe the lesson is a bit of both embarrassment and modesty. Even though our teenagers will usually not admit to it she did learn from this experience. This father made an impact on his daughter in many different ways. The one I am most fond of is the lesson that he can be a parent, and disciplinary but at the very same time have a sense of humor, and show her what he will sacrifice and do for her to learn a lesson. I believe our culture dictates what is acceptable for us to wear. It's us as parents who have the responsibility to keep it in check, so they can understand what you wear has an impact on how people view you in society. When we are young we don't give that consequence much thought. He did a fantastic job and really thought outside the box.
Staci M 47 in response to Lindsey H
ReplyDeleteI see what your saying.I do agree with part of what you said about people should dress how they want to. I do not however believe any child until they are out on there own should have the final decision on anything even when it comes to there "style" being a parent of a teenager and a young 1st grader I may be old school but they don't have rights in my home till they turn 18 and move out.I'm not very popular needless to say.
Christina D.
ReplyDeleteI had a father who did many STUPID things such as this dad, and as a result, he just made a butt out of himself. My dad thought if I wore too much make up I was going to get raped. This is ridiculous, first point, if someone wants to rape you, then it doesn't matter what your wearing or how much make up you have on, there gonna do it either way. I have teen son's and daughters, they had better have respect for others as well as themselves. This dad, like all dads, I am sure is just trying to be protective of his daughter, but he should have respect for her, all dads think shorts are to short, and swimsuits are underwear. This dad should check himself and stop embarrassing his kids, there are many ways to teach lessons and this way is more disrespectful than wearing booty shorts. Why is he making those harsh judgement about women any way, does he wan't to rape girls in shorts! And the reason older folks shouldn't wear booty shorts is the simply fact, as you age everything hangs south of the border, and one wrong move, your goods are out for everyone to see!
Taylor W.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we think that embarrassment is the best way to teach? This happens in every elementary school and middle school across the country. I think everyone should check out this author Brene Brown. Her book about shame and vulnerability and her interview with Opera really hit home. She said, “I define connection as the energy that exists between people when they feel seen, heard, and valued." "Shame, blame, disrespect, betrayal, and the withholding of affection damage the roots from which love grows." I understand this dad loves his family fiercely but embarrassment is not the way. My opinion like Dr. Brown's is instilling value is the only way.
Erin L.
ReplyDeleteI do think this is a very effective way to teach his daughter a lesson, however it is not the same due to the fact that he is an older man. When girls wear short shorts it is not really frowned upon in our society as much as it would be if men would wear them. It is more of a norm for girls to walk around in these. It is teaching her a lesson but in a much different and noticeable manner. I think it is more embarrassing for the dad to walk around in these rather than his daughter. It really just depends on society and its norms at the time.
Maurice L41 I thinks it is embarrassing for both. it's embarrassing for the girl to have to be in public with her dad when we is wearing short short, and even though the father is trying to teach his daughter a lesson in modesty it very well could be embarrassing for him to have to be seen around his peers wearing short shorts. there's nothing wrong with men wearing shorts but wearing them shorter in length is not the norm for man and fatherly figures.
ReplyDeleteTim F. 47
ReplyDeleteI believe that this is more of a cause and effect lesson. The daughter will not want to wear such clothing for fear of the embarrassing results. While the father is trying to teach her a lesson in modesty, the result is more along the lines of negative reinforcement. This issue delves into gender roles and what's perceived as appropriate for women vs. that which is perceived appropriate for men. Short/tight clothing is seen more of a symbol of femininity by most people, so such things on a male is largely seen as socially unacceptable on a man. While this view has been changing for many years, the vast majority of the populace in our country still cling to it.
Tim F. 47 in response to Erin L.
ReplyDeleteI agree that what is considered the norm is changing and that this may one day be something that is not considered unusual.
I think its a lesson in embarrassment, but included would be stubbornness. In the end, this father is showing his child the same embarrassment that he feels when she doesn't cover up. Embarrassment worked, she wears longer shorts. I think she would rather be modest than have her dad not be. Sometimes you have to show your child that you can be just as stubborn as they are. At that age it is so easy for a parent to be a "friend" and not a parent. I personally do not know if this person has really talked to his daughter and tried to teach her why you shouldn't show it all, so for that I can't comment. I do think it is great that the father is involved and not just letting it go as something that teens just do. On a side note, I have a teen daughter and she has never been allowed to buy the short shorts in the first place. Now while shopping she gets irritated because that's all you can find. It takes a lot of effort to find shorts that are at least decent.
ReplyDeleteAngela W. 47
DeleteI know my name is there but I forgot to put my class:)
Angela W 47
ReplyDeleteMy response to Staci M.
I totally agree with you! My child knows exactly what she can wear because she knows my rules and why I have made those rules.
Angela W 47
ReplyDeleteOne more comment... I do remember when those really short shorts were worn by men all the time. They were generally running shorts but they were just as short or shorter than those. My dad and my brothers wore them all the time. At least back then we didn't have social media!
I think that was an awesome thing he did. He was able to prove his point without causing any shouting and anger. I don't believe there is anything wrong with a little a embarrassment now and then, because we almost always look back on those moments and laugh. This father could have taken much more extreme measures to get his point across, most of which probably wouldn't show the kind of love he actually has for his family. Men wearing short shorts is definitely not the norm today and he drew a lot of attention which helped get his point across all the better. I don't think most teenagers think past whats right in front of them, they don't see a lot of the consequences that their actions may cause. That's why parents have rules in the first place, to protect children and teens from themselves. I'm not saying that it's dangerous for a woman to wear short shorts, but it does draw a certain type of crowd that may not be of the best influence.
ReplyDeleteJennifer O. 46 replying to Levi Dozier:
DeleteI agree with your opinion in that the Dad's form of "punishment" was not the worst that he could have done to his daughter. It is not entirely his fault that his daughter did not entirely understand the message right away - they both just have to work on their communication together. The dad has to teach his daughter further about the consequences of her decisions, just like Levi mentioned. In my house, growing up, my dad worked night shifts and still does, so most days my younger sister and I did not see much of him. Yet, we knew his few rules and strictly followed them, because we knew the consequences of what would happen if we didn't. Even though I wasn't able to see him all the time, I was still able to have a great relationship with him growing up, and I still do even though we're in different states.
First of all I think this is a hilarious alternative way for this father to teach his daughter a lesson. I believe this is the type of thing that would mortify the young girl at the time, discouraging her from wearing revealing clothing at least until she is old enough to be able to truly make her own decisions. I believe later down the road when she is an adult she will look back and laugh about this with her dad. I know there are a lot of lessons my parents taught me years ago that infuriated me at the time, that I now chuckle at.
ReplyDeleteI believe people frowning upon the the short shorts on a grown man is a matter of changing times and styles (at least in this situation). In the '70s, it was completely normal for men to wear short shorts. Now if it were a mini skirt or a belly shirt, that would be a little different. People would frown upon him, but that would strictly be a product of him going against gender norms.
I think it was a good way to try to get through to his daughter. However I really never thought about how men use to wear short shorts back in the day, so I think that's a good point. I remember seeing pictures of my dad playing basketball in his short shorts and honestly the pictures were embarrassing enough.
DeleteJennifer W. 55
ReplyDeleteBeing a single Mom of a 14 year old daughter I totally agree with what the Dad in this situation is doing. I do believe it is embarrassing for the child, although I also believe she will not be wearing those kind of short shorts in public well at least not with her dad. I also think now a days it is important for daughters to have fathers that care what they are wearing. I try so hard to teach my daughter that it is best to keep everything covered. I personally just don't want my child to give the wrong impression to anyone.
Jennifer W 55
ReplyDeleteIn reply to Angela W. 47
First off let me say I totally agree with you. I also have a teen daughter and I find it incredibly hard finding anything but the shorty shorts. I don't understand why the stores make it so hard to find decent clothes for teenagers. It is less material usually for more money.
Josh C.55
ReplyDeleteNeedless to say this is a clear lesson of modesty. Sure people are entitled to wear whatever they want to, but some things are just inappropriate. I believe that if your not living under your parents roof you can wear whatever you please, but until that time respect your parents wishes. No father wants to see his daughter wearing shorts that are so short if you move the wrong way butt cheeks or genital areas are exposed. I am not a father myself but I have a sister that I am very protective over and cant stand to see her wear things like that in public. This father did what he thought was necessary to teach his daughter a lesson. If it embarrasses his daughter to be seen with him like that then she should understand how it makes her father feel when she dresses like that.
Ilisha W. 47 in response to Josh C. 55
DeleteI agree totally! It is one thing to be grown and wear whatever you please, but this father took it to the extreme for good reason. This is something that our society encourages, especially certain cultures. This girl needs to be taught how to be a lady and ladies do not wear that type of clothing in just any setting.
I think what the dad did was smart. Evidently the young lady did not give him the response he was hoping for. I don’t think it embarrassed her or taught her a lesson at that time. Perhaps the lesson will sink in next time she goes to put on the shorts before heading out with her family.
ReplyDeleteSabrina B. 46 responding to Anna S.
DeleteI agree with you Anna S. She may have even thought it was funny at the time, but I do believe she will definitely think twice the next time she grabs her daisy dukes. I believe that will leave a more lasting impression.
Misty G,46 I have a 13 yr old and I will not let her wear shorts like that. As long as she is in my house she will go by my rules. This dad took things a little to far. If any thing this dad embarrassed his daughter by wearing the shorts and maybe she will think about it next time she wants to wear the booty shorts.
ReplyDeleteMisty G 46 in response to Angela 47 You are right in order to get through to our kids we have to act like them so they see what they are doing or wearing doesn't look good.
ReplyDeleteIlisha W. 47
ReplyDeleteWell! Obviously, how individuals dress is an act of expression or self-classification. In this case; however, young girls are consistently put under societal and peer pressure to be "sexy" or appealing to whichever sex they prefer according to their orientation. This young lady is probably in high school where self discovery and social placement is always prevalent in the high school and college student populations. Simply put, she and all other young girls that dress that way are only looking for attention and acceptance. Is it right? Of course not. Her father is awesome for opening her eyes this way. Imagine all the girls who do not have fathers to set these examples! They look to music videos and magazines for influence.
I'm 24 years old and I dress provocatively from time-to-time, but only in the appropriate settings. I may lounge around in my short pajama shorts at home when all my siblings are at school or maybe at a night club where that sort of dress is the norm. I do that because I am grown and have the right to dress the way I please. I understand boundaries. I respect family establishments by not dressing that way in front of observant little girls and boys.
Danielle T.47 in response to Ilisha W.47
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with Ilisha in that there is indeed a time and place to expose more flesh than others. Under the scrutiny of the public, it is offensive if one wears short shorts or low cut tops. Too much exposed flesh exudes sex which can make people extremely uncomfortable. When children expose too much skin, the wrong image can provoke a pervert to think of sex.
Sabrina B. 46
ReplyDeleteI think the dad is doing the right thing. Rather proving a point or embarrassing his daughter, he is getting his point across. The same way his daughter may feel about being embarrassed by her dad, she may very well be embarrassing him. We are visual beings. Just telling her not to wear daisy dukes obviously wasn't enough. Good for him.
Charles D.46
ReplyDeleteI think the dad was trying to communicate with his daughter the best way knew how. Perhaps,she does not listening to no way. The daughter has her own agenda. Dad loves his daughter so the only thing to do. Since she is embarrassing him,obviously,he returns the favor. Did the gesture work in this case? Maybe not,the father was willing to embarrass himself.
Innocent A.46 in response to Charles D.46
DeleteI completely agree with you that the dad was trying to communicate his message of modest dressing in the public to his daughter. Though, teenager this days may have their own agenda which is completely different from their parents own agenda but fail to realize the consequences of their actions. The gesture really work since the girls realize how embarrass she felt at last.
Linda H.46
ReplyDeleteI think this was a great lesson to teach his daughter about modesty, but because this story received so much media attention on the father, who by the way, has a great pair of legs, really was not very embarrassing for the daughter. I hope that his daughter will not do as I did by stashing a pair of hot pants in my pocket and off to the school gym to change in my hot pants. If she wants to wear her short shorts, she will find a way to wear them. I also realize many preteens and middle age women do wear short shorts. If you cannot sport them like her dad was able to, them stay out of them! I would prefer not to see all of that, leave something to be desired ladies. Cheeks are for happy faces.
Linda H. 46. in response to Levi Dozier
ReplyDeleteI agree with your point on how the father could have taken this situation to a whole other level. It is better to teach a lesson without all of the yelling back and forth. Most young girls generally wear what the style for that season and they are off to another fad. I don't think young teens see that any thing is wrong with what that wear, even if it is not in their best interest to do so.
Innocent A.46
ReplyDeleteIn my own opinion I would rather say this story teaches the daughter a modest in dressing. A loving father would do anything within his capacity to educate the mind of his child to do what is right. Though, it might seems embarrassing to those that saw him for the first time dressing that way and have a wrong notion concerning his appearances but his intention was justifiable. Indeed, he is the best Dad ever!
Jennifer O. 46
ReplyDeleteIn an ideal world, a person should be allowed to wear whatever they choose without judgement, as long as they are wearing something. Unfortunately, in today's society, we have the judgement of peers at school, co-workers, mass media, trends, and current culture norms to think about, for example. Today, like some have mentioned, a girl around that daughter's age wearing shorts that short is fine and not a big deal. In other places, there are dress codes, parents/society may be more modest, or short shorts may not be "in". Men wearing short shorts in today's society, and in his social location, is not acceptable to most people these days. It's not a taboo for sure, but I'm sure some were grossed out.
As for the dad's way of teaching his daughter about his no short shorts rule over and over again, I think this one would last and work better, even if it didn't and might not work right away. It would stick in her mind longer because of how memorable the event was. Even though she didn't get his point of wearing the short shorts right away, soon she will and hopefully she and her dad will work on their communication skills together. What I love about this is the fact that a more severe punishment was avoided. My childhood was full of yelling arguments, mainly with my mother because my younger sister and I knew better than to cross dad's path. Those could have been avoided with more creative and less severe punishments, and better communication between my mom and I. Even today, sometimes our communication is strained and I feel like I am on the defensive. For some kids, the embarrassment is extremely humiliating and devastating, and that just has to be taken on a case-by-case basis by the parents.
Mehdi.E 55
ReplyDeleteTo me I think this sort of action teaches a lesson on modesty. Why? Well because the father did this lesson to show his daughter that not everyone who wears clothes like short shorts which are to revealing to other people look good in them. The father also displayed this sort of action to the daughter to show that by wearing clothes that are to revealing and not modest for dressing allows people to judge her in inappropriate ways. However, I do believe the daughter has a point because well the style is different now and she just wants to fit in with the times of the new style. I have to also agree with the dad because he's only doing it and went through all this to teach the daughter a lesson because he doesn’t want people judging her by her clothing. Why I think its embarrassing for a middle aged man to wear shorts than ladies is well I guess in today’s standards adult men should we wearing well adult men type of clothing but short shorts not really and to other people this type of clothing doesn’t go well for middle aged men in today’s society and culture because they are judged terribly for it. But for women between pre teen to middle age it’s more appropriate because it fits well for them and since they are ladies and basically young it is okay for them to show skin in this type of clothing and for ladies wearing short shorts is more of feminine type clothing. That is my belief.
Mehdi E.55 in response to Josh C.55
ReplyDeleteI agree with the point you made because well it is on the same level as mine. Your right she is still living under the roof of her parents and she should not argue back but respect the fact that parents want her to wear something not to revealing either. Maybe when she is older and responsible it would be ok to wear what she pleases. However, I agree that the dad did what he did because he just wanted to show what he sees when his daughter wears that type of clothing.
I see what the UT dad is trying to do. If embarrassment is an effective way to change the daughter’s behavior or it has worked in the past then I support the dad’s method. On the other hand if the daughter is young enough to where the parents are still buying her clothes then shame on the parents for continuing to buy her or give her the money to buy clothing they find offensive. If the daughter is old enough to where she is able to make her own decisions and buy her own clothes with her own money then it is not her parent’s decision to tell her what she can and can’t wear. This dad is obviously trying to embarrass his daughter to maybe show her just how silly it is to wear such clothing in public. Go Dad!!!
ReplyDeleteFlo G.47 In response to Misty G.46
DeleteI understand the extreme that the dad had to go to because he is trying to protect his daughter. She is a teenager and is still living in the father's house, therefore, he has a right to tell her what does not look good on her. I keep telling my son that i don't like his punk hairstyle but i don't have the guts to cut my hair punk for him to get the message. This father needs a pat on the back for daring to do this!
In response to Misty G .46,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Misty. If the daughter is still living with her parents then she should respect what her parent’s roles. Obviously living her that house hold isn’t too awful seeing how this is how dad handles situations that go against his approval. No kid, especially girls, like to be embarrassed so I think this is an excellent method to change the daughters behavior.
The man used shame to regulate the behavior of his daughter. Many different animals use shaming to control or eliminate unwanted behavior. It is very effective.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, what do you call the male version of camel toe?
Claire M. 46
ReplyDeleteWhile I do believe this father had every intention of teaching his teenage daughter a lesson, it is difficult to know if she understood the real message. She knows that the shorts look ridiculous on her dad, but will she understand that too short shorts can also look distasteful even on a younger female? Our society has become too focused on praising individuality and acceptance rather than self-respect and modesty. I believe that wearing revealing clothing (in most settings) is not classy but also damaging to a girl's reputation and makes her an easy target. The daughter probably likes the harmless "attention" from her high school friends now, but may change her own mind about her clothing choices in a few years. I think her dad's message was more of an embarrassment than anything and that she should just obey her parents restrictions on clothing at least around the family out of respect to her parents.
Growing up my mother gave me the freedom to wear what I choose, however, she gave me one guideline. She said, "if you will not feel comfortable in front of your grandparents then you should not wear it." And still to this day I go by this except for on a few occasions of going out with friends. My mother taught me to give men something to wonder about so they try to get to know me not just try talking to me because of my appearance. I believe this was a good value my mother taught me. I feel it probably has kept me away from some stupid relationships and mistakes. I feel this dad was doing the same for his daughter protecting her from men that would only be interested in her physical because the way she dressed. So I give this dad major props. I believe this should have taught his daughter a lesson on modesty and a slight embarrassment for you she had been parading around in.
ReplyDeleteAlison B. 46 in reply to Ashley Huskins
DeleteI think your parents went about guidelines for dressing in a perfect way. Rather than demanding to be obeyed they gave you enough freedom to grow and be your own person but with moral integrity. It's always funny how we carry around some of the rules our parents instilled in us long after we leave their house.
I think that this is more of an embarrassment for him and his daughter. Our society has already decided what is okay for girls and old man to wear. Society is comfortable with girls using the daisy dukes, but not for old aged man to wear them. Whether he was trying to teach his daughter a lesson or not, it is not socially acceptable for him to do it this way.
ReplyDeleteJeannie Sarli
ReplyDeleteWhile today's society has grown accustom to young females to wear said clothing, I believe that the basic man wearing the same thing would be highly inappropriate. That being said, his shirt and his expressions would be very obvious to the general public that he was intending to embarrass his daughter. But did he? I'll put myself in that situation. If I were a fan of "daisy dukes" and my father did this to me, I would NOT be influenced not to wear them. On the contrary, I'd probably be amused & maybe SLIGHTLY embarrassed that he wore them, but I surely would pick mine up and wear them again. I believe in his attempt to teach his daughter a lesson, but I'm most certain that she continued to wear them.
Brittany S 46.
ReplyDeleteI think that the father probably accomplished embarrassing his daughter, however I'm not so sure about teaching her a lesson on modesty. If she doesn't wear them at home, she would probably just change into them once she leaves the house. I see men in short shorts all the time, I think it just comes down to who has the desire or self-esteem to wear them and not feel judged. I don't know why people are so preoccupied with what others wear. A woman who is wearing short shorts is not automatically a slut and a man who is wearing short shorts is not automatically gay. Also, I see a lot of people saying he is trying to protect her from unwanted advances from men, and I get it that that is the world we live in, as a woman I understand that we have to be worried about assault. What I would like to see though, is a world that teaches its sons not to think that way about women rather than teach women that they can't do or wear certain things because "oh, that's just how men are".
Brittany S. 46 in response to Onyimah L. 47
ReplyDeleteI agree with a lot of your post, however I don't think what a woman wears make her more likely to be raped. I think adopting this viewpoint is kind of like victim blaming, like "oh she shouldn't have been wearing that" or "she shouldn't have been drinking". I feel that it deflects from the actual criminal and shames a lot of victims who would otherwise come forward. I also want to say that I know it is hard to tell in an online forum, but I don't think you think this way, so please don't feel like I'm attacking you.
Falinda A. 47
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I'm thrilled that this action has token place this father loves and respects his daughter very much by wearing them shorts. Little funny and bittersweet. Most teenage girls out there wearing them shorty shorts and that is something no parent want their child to see them wear. And for why is embarrassing for middle age guys to wear shorts and not for younger teens?? Well it depends on the person and the situation, like this predicament. It doesn't bother me because a responsible father is trying to make a point, it all depends. I'm not really surprised that now a days some younger women are wearing revealing clothing more and more each day, yes I understand some women likes to be attractive and sexy but there is a such thing as moderation which people seem not to get now a days.
Alison B. 46
ReplyDeleteI personally think this is awesome. I think this a funny way to show a child that they are being silly or ridiculous. I do think however that we stem from a semi-traditionally thinking culture so in result to see a hairy man in booty shorts, will most likely turn a view heads. I personally think people should be able to dress however they want without being chastised but as a society we still have a lot of growing and maturing to do. I think with young women who are still growing they strive to at least appear mature and through that they take the most obvious route which results in more provocative clothing and behavior usually with age i think this tends to wane as they see there is so much more to being a grown woman than showing skin.
Josephine B. 44 in response to Alison B. 46
DeleteI completely agree with you. It is not every day that you see a man walking around in daisy dukes. This is not usually accepted by society for many reasons. Like you said, it is not that great of a site when you see a man with hairy legs in daisy dukes, and of course you're going to have a lot of heads turning. Also, with younger girls, I agree that they feel as if maturing and growing into a woman means showing more skin. Like you said, it does tend to fade once girls realize that there is so much more to growing up and being a woman than showing more skin.
I think it's comical, yet embarrassing for the father. It just depends on the views of others,
ReplyDeleteand how society reacts to this. Which you could arguably tie in social norms.
But I just find it hysterical.
Josephine B. 44
ReplyDeleteThis is a hard one, but I have to say that I think it would be more of an embarrassment than a lesson that was taught. Although, if my dad wore daisy dukes to teach me a lesson, I probably would not ever wear them anymore, in fear that he would embarrass me again! So in a way, yes it would teach his daughter a lesson because it shows just how much skin she really is showing.
Josephine B. 44
ReplyDeleteThis is a hard one, but I have to say that I think it would be more of an embarrassment than a lesson that was taught. Although, if my dad wore daisy dukes to teach me a lesson, I probably would not ever wear them anymore, in fear that he would embarrass me again! So in a way, yes it would teach his daughter a lesson because it shows just how much skin she really is showing.
I agree with the father. He make look like a fool but he is just looking out for his daughter. His daughter is the one who is probably more embarrassed with all the attention her father has received. He made his point.
ReplyDeleteJessica S.
ReplyDeleteI personally believe that people should be free to wear whatever they want to an extent. People just have to be aware of the kind of attention they will receive according to what they wear. I completely understand the fathers point of view. I personally wouldn't want my daughter to wear shorts that I felt would be too exposing, if I were a mother. I understand that he is just trying to protect his daughter from the unwanted type of attention from douche bags and perverts. I will however point out that some kids these days only learn from first hand experiences. So while embarrassment might work in some cases, it won't always work. Some kids are just very rebellious and when told they can't do or wear something, they do as they please anyway.
Judy S. ONLINE 50
DeleteI acknowledge your observation about this topic that kids will only learn from first hand experiences. I admire the father who went the lengths to teach his daughter a lesson. Thumbs up! However; I think he should have had a sat down and talked to his daughter about he felt before making such a move.
Flo K.47 I think that the father made the point clearly that too much exposure will bring unwanted attention to her. The father must have talked to deaf ears, and seeing him wear short shorts, embarrassing as it looked was probably the only hope for her to get it. It could be a feast for the eyes out there but a pit for her. I totally understand the father.
ReplyDeleteJacob J. 55 in response to Flo K. 47
DeleteI agree, while the father could have just thrown away all of the skimpy clothing there was no way to make sure that the daughter understood what the purpose would be. I believe that this was the right call on the fathers part.
Matt M.55
ReplyDeleteI think that he had probably had enough of the all talk and no action from his daughter and was simply demonstrating what he goes through on a daily basis. I think that he made a great example of how it can attract a lot of unwanted attention. Good job pops!
Matt M. in response to Ashley Huskins
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with you. If you wouldn't wear it around your grandparents then it's probably not that great of an idea. Although my cousins wife wears things around our family that gets everyone talking! I also like how you put giving men something to wonder about. Classic!
Stephanie F. 47
ReplyDeleteI think that this dad did this to get a point across to his daughter. Wearing these shorts is not appealing and it's almost embarrassing for him to be seen with her because he thinks she is much to young to be wearing them. So instead of her embarrassing him, he embarrasses her and teaches her a lesson about showing too much skin.
Stephanie F. in response to Flo K.
ReplyDeleteI think you are exactly right. He is representing that wearing clothes like this will attract a lot of attention to you. And it probably won't be good attention.
Jade S.
ReplyDeleteI think he is embarrassing her, because she'd be embarrassing him. Short shorts are not something anyone should wear...old people, young people, boys, girls, fat or skinny. Everyone would find SOMETHING to say about another, the only thing in common? They are all wearing the short shorts.
No father wants their "baby girl" to be too revealing...no daughter wants daddy to be embarrassing... Its all about respect; if daddy doesn't want you dressing like trash, don't. If you do, he may have a surprise for you. ...In this case, dressing "down" with you so you know how he feels.
Ansley L. 47
ReplyDeleteI think this definitely teaches a lesson because I know for a fact if my dad did this I would be more careful about what I wore. I think this is a great lesson because it would get girls attention and make them wonder what other people think about when they wear them. Also, it would get the point across because it would be embarrassing and since no one likes to be embarrassed they would hopefully be more attentive to what they wear from now on.
Ifeyinwa o.47 in response to Ansley L.47
DeleteI quite agree with you- Ansley about dressing in short just to teach a great lesson to girls but if the girls don't regard it or appreciate that. what will be the next step? Not everyone can learn a great lesson from it.
Ansley L. 47
ReplyDeleteIn response to Stephanie F. 47
I completely agree. Sometimes the only way to get your point across is to embarrass the other person. That's sad to say but no one likes to be embarrassed so they will start to look at what they do and how they perceive themselves more carefully.
Jacob J. 55
ReplyDeleteThe father wore those pants to literally show how much skin his daughter was showing to random people. Embarrassment is one way to effectively discipline children but should not be used too often. The main reason it was embarrassing for the daughter is that it goes against social norms for males such as the father in this situation, to wear such clothing that has been declared feminine in the eyes of the public.
Ben Gallimore
ReplyDeleteI actually saw this on the news. Your teenage years are a very impressionable time. Her Dad was simply telling her, "you see people staring at me? What makes you think they aren't staring at you?" He was teaching her a lesson of how much skin was actually being shown. I applaud him, when i saw it on the news the father said they went out to eat and to the bank and he could care less what people were thinking.
Judy S. ONLINE 50
ReplyDeleteThis father from Utah is a brave man for trying to teach his daughter a lesson but I think he is the one who should be embarrassed. In today's society, the social media and today's pop culture influences these kids to dress the way they do. Models, billboards, and advertisement has impacted on how teens dress. Kids will be kids and maybe it is just a phase but I do not blame them for the way they dress. Even in Walmart, one can not go into the young ladies section and find a pair of shorts that are not too short.
Rebecca B.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be used as embarrassment because in today's society seeing a teenage girl wear booty shorts is more common and natural than a man wearing the same thing. It goes against everyones natural thought of who you would see wearing these booty shorts. It goes against our ethnomethodology.
Rebecca B. in response to Judy S. ONLINE 50
ReplyDeleteI disagree with your thoughts on the subject because it may be popular for the celebs and models to wear these shorts and clothes like they do but these celebs and models are grown ups and do this for a living. Todays advertisements and billboards teach girls to be skinny and wear lots of make up and wear expensive clothes and teach the girls that if they don't look like this then they are ugly. Is that right too?
Rebecca B. in response to Judy S. ONLINE 50
ReplyDeleteI disagree with your thoughts on the subject because it may be popular for the celebs and models to wear these shorts and clothes like they do but these celebs and models are grown ups and do this for a living. Todays advertisements and billboards teach girls to be skinny and wear lots of make up and wear expensive clothes and teach the girls that if they don't look like this then they are ugly. Is that right too?
Rebecca B.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be used as embarrassment because in today's society seeing a teenage girl wear booty shorts is more common and natural than a man wearing the same thing. It goes against everyones natural thought of who you would see wearing these booty shorts. It goes against our ethnomethodology.
Nadasha C
ReplyDeleteI think this dad action teaches a lesson in modesty to his daughter. I bet every time she thinks about wearing something that's not so modest she will remember her dad in his short shorts. Some females nowadays both young and old dress a little bit too revealing and leave nothing to the imagination. I Also think it was embarrassing for her especially walking next to him. He got his point across. She knew the house rules and choose to break one so live with the embarrassment. Just remember modest is hottest.
Olivia G.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the back story on this blog post I feel that it is a lesson in modesty. This dad went to the "next level" because his daughter repeatedly had to be told to change her outfit due to the fact that it was not appropriate. I agree with his choice completely because whether you think so or not people do look and make judgments based on the way you are dressed and how you present your self to society. It doesn't necessarily matter if most teenage girls and young adults wear short shorts people are still judging and creating their first impression. Whether it is a man in short shorts or a female, dressing appropriately is what is important and I feel this is the lesson this dad was trying to teach.
Olivia G.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the back story on this blog post I feel that it is a lesson in modesty. This dad went to the "next level" because his daughter repeatedly had to be told to change her outfit due to the fact that it was not appropriate. I agree with his choice completely because whether you think so or not people do look and make judgments based on the way you are dressed and how you present your self to society. It doesn't necessarily matter if most teenage girls and young adults wear short shorts people are still judging and creating their first impression. Whether it is a man in short shorts or a female, dressing appropriately is what is important and I feel this is the lesson this dad was trying to teach.
Olivia G.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the back story on this blog post I feel that it is a lesson in modesty. This dad went to the "next level" because his daughter repeatedly had to be told to change her outfit due to the fact that it was not appropriate. I agree with his choice completely because whether you think so or not people do look and make judgments based on the way you are dressed and how you present your self to society. It doesn't necessarily matter if most teenage girls and young adults wear short shorts people are still judging and creating their first impression. Whether it is a man in short shorts or a female, dressing appropriately is what is important and I feel this is the lesson this dad was trying to teach.
Madlyn M.47
DeleteI agree completely. I think the dad was trying to make more of a statement of what people are going to think about you at face value than who you really are. He just wants people to look at his daughter with respect and not assumptions of her not being a "nice" girl just because of the way she dresses. As much as I would like to say we have to get to know people before making judgment, we all know that we judge from the first look.
Anthony R.47
ReplyDeleteThe definition of modesty is,regard for decency of behavior, speech, dress, etc. I do commend the father on a job well done. It is as he said, you are judged by how you dress. If you go to an job interview in a short skirt or short shorts, you probably will not get the job. The point of the matter is I am a guy and I am twenty four year old, and as a guy I always make assumption about a woman from the way they dress. If you have on short shorts to the point that a tad bit of your buttocks is showing, I assume two things; one is you want attention and two, you feel very low about yourself and dressing like that changes that feeling for you. all in all there is an appropriate time and place to dress like that. you are the best dad ever.
Anthony R.47 in response to Nadasha C.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with Natasha expounding on the fact that women who show everything leave nothing to the imagination. Dressing inappropriately is not cute or sexy, instead it comes off in a totally demeaning manor. Modest is hottest.
Onyimah L.47
ReplyDeleteIn response to Ansley and others who think that this embarrasses his daughter.I will add that the lesson taught or lesson learned here will depend on who this teenager is and how much regard she has for her dad. Dad's action will not provoke any thoughts or any lessons if this is the "I don't care type of teenager".
It takes confident for a Dad to dress or wear "Daisy Duke short" in an attempt to teach his daughter a lesson. I see it as a form of modesty to his family especially to his daughter. His daughter will live to remember what her father did for her just to let her know that indecency dressing is not proper. But it is an embarrassment to the male society because people mightn't understand his intension on why he dressed that way.
ReplyDeleteIfeyinwa O.47
ReplyDeleteIt takes confident for a Dad to dress or wear "Daisy Duke short" in an attempt to teach his daughter a lesson. I see it as a form of modesty to his family especially to his daughter. His daughter will live to remember what her father did for her just to let her know that indecency dressing is not proper. But it is an embarrassment to the male society because people mightn't understand his intension on why he dressed that way.
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Let me start off by saying I am a huge advocate for modesty. I use to wear the short shorts and it wasn't until I got a little older that I realized no one needed to see that much of me. It's just unattractive. I think what the father did, while undoubtedly embarrassing, was a bold effort to get through to his daughter. He wanted to show her that what she thought of as cute and attractive might not be so cute and attractive to the rest of the world looking at her.
ReplyDeleteEmily S.81 in response to Bill Gallimore
ReplyDeleteI actually really like what you've said. Though I don't think the whole point in his action was just on how much skin was being shown, but rather how ridiculous it is to show that much skin in public. He was a making a mockery of the trend in a last ditch effort to show her how ridiculous she might look to other people in her daisy dukes. Also to show her that maybe other people don't want to look at that much of her, just as I'm sure no one wanted to see that much of him in those shorts.
Naomi A. 41
ReplyDeleteI think this teaches a lesson more of embarrassment than anything else. Girls all around the country wear certain kinds of clothing and its perfectly natural. These kinds of short are something you see women wearing everyday in this society, in the media. All though personally, if my dad ever wore those, I would probably just laugh.
Cheryl R. 46
DeleteI totally agree with Naomi, it's more of an embarrassing moment than a life's lesson. Teens are going to be teens and they love looking like their peers or the media. I hope this girl is still laughing somewhere with her friends about the lesson she did or should have learned!
Michael B. 55
ReplyDeleteI like that this dad was trying to show his daughter about modesty but I would think this would embarrass any teen. Men do not typically ever dress like that so the stares in public had to be mortifying for the daughter. Teenagers are embarrassed by their parents and what they do or wear everyday. Its just a stage that most teenagers seem to go through and get over. Maybe he should've tried going thru her clothing and removing what he thought was inappropriate. If modesty is a rule in the home she should obey her parents wishes and when she is living on her own then she can dress however she wants.
Cheryl R. 46
ReplyDeleteI get where the dad is trying to go with the whole ordeal but as a rebellious teenager, the father is just embarrassing himself because the teen will still wear short shorts if she chooses to. I rebelled against my parents about a lot of different issues and got taught lessons the hard way instead of just listening or giving the issue a thought. So in this situation I think it will only embarrass the teen rather than teach her a lesson.
Barbara P. 46 in response to Cheryl R. 46
DeleteI completely agree! I did the same thing in HS. My dad said I couldn't wear this and that to school cause he didn't like it or if I did my hair a certain way that he didn't like and I still did. All I did was wait till he left for work and do what I wanted or stash my things in my backpack and go to school and change there. It depends on the teen though, but most of the time we all go through some sort of rebellious behavior with our parents.
Barbara P. 46
ReplyDeleteI feel it's a lesson on both modesty and embarrassment. I understand his reasoning for the lesson however I think it would really depend on the girl and how she views the lesson. A teenage girl would probably just not wear them around her father and stash them to wear when she leaves the house. So really I think he should rethink his form of punishment cause all he's really doing is embarrassing himself.
Devon H. 47.
ReplyDeleteWhile I do think its highly disturbing to see this, he makes a valid point. Preteens and teens should probably cover up more. Wearing such provocative clothing promotes the "male gaze". This natural attraction makes men look like perverts when they look; but this also makes the women look like they just want that same attention.
Devon H. 47. In response to Barbara P. 46.
ReplyDeleteBut why is it appropriate for the girl to leave the house in such little clothing anyway? I see the father's point completely. Women can be beautiful without having to dress in such small pieces of clothing.
Madlyn M. 47
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I fear that this is a story of embarrassment. I like the idea of what the father was trying to accomplish but it didn't work. Teenagers are always trying to keep up with what is in style or popular at the time and unfortunately for parents who don't like to see their babies is short shorts it's a sad day for us.
MarcusQ. 55 I have read this article before and although I found it more amusing than anything I think he got his point across very clearly. Many children now a days are so accustomed to follow influences on television and peers at school that they do more things for attention than for their own want. Some children take their social status more importantly and would rather receive a whooping than be seen in public wither their dad dressed this way. They would label her in a heartbeat. I think this was very creative and hopefully affective!!
ReplyDeleteAmber H. 78
ReplyDeleteThis is the ultimate form of punishment for a teenage girl. If my father left the house in daisy duke cutoffs, I don't believe I'd wear bottoms above the knee again. Although it's torment, it's a good lesson.
Amber H. in response to Judy S. ONLINE 50
ReplyDeleteI disagree with that. Girls will not "always be girls". I wasn't allowed to wear shorts that were above my finger tips until I was sixteen, and that was something that always stuck with me. Growing up, my idols were Britney Spears and J. Lo, but my parents taught me that idolizing them and impersonating them were completely different things. I think this is a lesson that should be instilled in all youth today. Appearance matters, that's all there is to it.
Angela M. 47
ReplyDeleteI think this is great because it might be embarrassing but hey it is embarrassing for a parent to be seen with a child that is showing everything off.... what happened to just being a child. I think that each parent has their own way of teaching a lesson and I personally agree with this one because young girls are trying to hard to be grown and as parents we need to stop it and teach lessons even if it institutes a small amount of embarrassment.
Cassaundra W. 46 in response to Angela M. 47
DeleteI agree I think a small amount of embarrassment can be a great tool, and in the long run it has a strong possibility of the girl to learn the lesson that he was trying to teach.
Krista P. 47
ReplyDeleteI think the father wearing short shorts was not only a lesson in modesty, but also an embarrassment. As a teenager I'm sure that I may have had a similar attitude towards this, and also felt I should be able to make my own choices in fashion. As an adult, and a mother of two daughters, my entire perspective has changed. I think this taught the daughter a lesson in modesty, because it was expressed clearly in front of her; although, she may not have realized nor cared about the way others perceived her in the past was she given the opportunity to see things from a different angle. Embarrassment played a role in this too as not only did the daughter get to put herself in her father’s shoes by being embarrassed by his choice, but the father embarrassed himself as well in teaching this lesson. This is creative parenting and love in my now older opinion.
Shayaz A. 41
ReplyDeleteI think this statement by the dad will cause more of an embarassment rather than a lesson. This type of shorts however, was not strange for men to wear in the early 1980's. If you look at basketball and soccer players in this era, the shorts were similar to Mr. Mcintoshes. But over time the norms have changed. It is now only acceptable for females to wear short shorts but is not common for men to wear them because it violates society's gender rule of men's attire.
Krista P. 47 in response to Emily S.81
ReplyDeleteIsn't it so funny how our views change with age...? I enjoyed and agreed with your post. I also feel that all people are different and should be able to express themselves in various different forms of fashion, yet as an adolescent it's important to have some guidance and direction. I think this fathers approach was effective. If not affected by it now later in her life she'll appreciate his creative lesson.
Cassaundra W. 46
ReplyDeleteI think that this father was trying to give his daughter a lesson in appearance and why it is important to dress appropriately when out in public. I think that he used his daughters embarrassment as a tool to teach her a valuable lesson that will help her throughout her life.
Michaela M.
ReplyDeleteI think that the father was giving his daughter a lesson in appearance and modesty. And also as to why it is important to dress appropriately when out in public. I'm sure the daughter appreciates the lesson that her father taught her. She will be able to apply it in both her life and her kids or friends, or whoever else.
Marie Jean-Francois
ReplyDeleteI see this as more of a embarassment thing in an attempt to teach a lesson. He is probably trying to teach her alesson of modesty but it comes across in her head as an attempt to embarass her. The views on this topic will change depending on age and other variables,Over the years that attire has scarcely if not only in fun been worn by men so in the view of the public today it would be shamed upon.
Chelsea B. 47
ReplyDeleteI do not have kids of my own so I would not be able to make the judgement call on whether or not this act of teaching a lesson was acceptable. As a daughter though, when I was a teenager I probably would have been mortified if my father showed up anywhere in public wearing those shorts. I do not think it is modest at all for anyone to wear "daisy dukes." I would think the daughter should be embarrassed for herself if she left the house showing off her behind that way.
Chelsea B. in response to Barbara P. 46
ReplyDeleteI think the father should take extra measures by checking her backpack for the "stashed" clothes. Or pick her up from school wearing the shorts. That may not be agreeable to other parents; however, it is his daughter and he can choose his form of parenting.
Mina S. 46
DeleteWow! I didn't even think about stashed clothes, but I've seen kids do it often.
Mina S. 46
ReplyDeleteI think it's both embarrasing and teaches a lesson. I think that's the lesson the dad is trying to teach his daughter is that it's embarrassing to wear short shorts like that or even come out in public with so much skin showing. Sometimes regular talks just don't work anymore for some kids or preteens. Of course boys would love to see girls in short shorts. In most cases, many giys would love to see girls in the nude, but if it were to be a guy wearing those shorts, many would probably assume he's homosexual. Others might assume he's out of style. I guess it would just seem "out of the norm" for most people.
Mina S. 46
ReplyDeleteLately it seems like many parents have to go out of their way to try to get through to them before they have to learn the hard way.
This kind of behavior would teach a lesson. The reason being is that it is not socially acceptable for a grown man to wear what is considered to be women's clothing. In this case, a father is trying to teach his teenage daughter a lesson. I think this is effective, but there is better ways to communicate this to them. The wearing of women's clothing as a man is, in my opinion, more embarrassing for the father than it is for the daughter.
ReplyDeleteAs a female who was a fan of "bootie shorts" as I was growing up, I am not sure the message the father was wanting to get out actually reached his daughter. I believe it was more embarrassing than a lesson taught. We as adults view this differently because we are "older and wiser". As a young girl who wore the short shorts, I didn't think of it as showing too much skin, or being disrespectful to myself. I was wearing them because I liked them, the attention it brought wasn't really either way, because all my friends wore them too. As a young teenager, we don't see things the way our parents are seeing it, and won't until we have children of our own. Teaching kids self respect has to began early and continue throughout their years. Not to say they won't stray and do things outside the box of your up bringing. I am only a voice of a "former bootie short" wearer and NOW a parent!
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DeleteChristopher Deaton
ReplyDeleteI think this was a lesson in embrassement more than modesty. While the girl in question will probaly not wear short shorts in front of her dad again, I believe she will still wear them. Short shorts are something that is seen to be normal for girls to wear. So this was just a lesson in embrassment and why men shouldn't wear short shorts like this.
Taylor McWilliams
ReplyDeleteWhile her dad may not agree with his daughter wearing short shorts someone ad to be buying them for her. It is not appropriate for guys to wear them because they were made for females to be more appealing for guys. Not for guys to be more appealing for girls.
Daniella Silva
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I find it very hard to judge a family situation like this. When the subject is education of children, there is not recipe book that can present a way infallible. The father's attitude is very strange for me to nap but I have no idea what this attitude represented or taught his daughter. What may seem strange or wrong for me and my family, can give quite right for other family structures. The same thing can generate a trauma in an adolescent, can teach others. This can be exemplified through the, quite different behaviors between children raised in the same house, the same parents.
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Hannah Turk
ReplyDeleteThe lesson taught was more of an embarrassing one then an eye opening one. In today's society its viewed as normal for young girls or girls in general to wear "booty shorts". In fact, if a girl has on the same length shorts that a male might wear, she will give off the vibe of being "gay" or a "dyke". I personally wear "booty shorts". I can say with 100% confidence that I do not wear them for attention, I wear them because I like them, they make me feel pretty and its feminine to show off our legs. The last reason I would wear shorts would to be provocative.
Christina Cromer
ReplyDeleteI feel this teaches a lesson of modesty. Do I see anything wrong with what the girl was wearing, no. I can see why her caring father does and I think his approach could possibly be effective. If not effective at least he made it hilarious.
Donavon W. 47
ReplyDeleteAssuming that the father's point was to prove immodesty, the point that the father was trying to make would probably not have been achieved via this strategy because of the distinctions between the male-female norms within Western society. A male dealing with a female custom will not have the same effect as when a female deals with the said custom, because of the cultural perception. Instead of achieving his point, he rather merely embarrassed his daughter, and thus perhaps did more damage to the relationship.In my opinion, he should have led by example in what to do in modeling the behaviors that he desired his daughter to attain (namely, modesty, self-control, chastity, peaceableness, etc.), instead of trying to model for her the foolishness of her behaviors (which is essentially what he was trying to do).
Donavon W. 47 in response to Devin H. 47
ReplyDeleteYou make some interesting points, man. It is impossible to judge someone's motives entirely, but I'm not going to be so ignorant of the human heart as to deny the reality that mankind loves to glory in its own assumption of its image.
You would think this would teach a lesson of modesty and embarrassment but children of our day are just hardnosed a complete different generation…If it was me I would defiantly learn because I would not want to see my Dad in daisy dukes..lol. Embarrassing for a middle age guy because it isn’t the norm to see a mid-age let alone a Man in little shorts…. (Well Basketball Players shorts were short)…I thought this dad was courageous to do this and try and teach his daughter a lesson. However being that the norm is for teenagers to dress less these days it may take a while for her to truly understand the mesg her Dad was trying to portray. On another note…short shorts have been a norm for a while even back in the 60’s Dukes of Hazards or Daisy Dukes… (I think that is the name). So I guess is it the shorts or the girl???? These girls are maturing so fast most of the time you can tell they are teenagers…We also need to look at what is in style not saying or blaming it on what we see on TV but you either fit in or you don’t, you are either a follower or a trendsetter so not really the shorts I think it has to do with the individual! Great Job Dad! If my Dad did this would be something I would never forget!! You get an A for effort!! Hopefully she gets it…
ReplyDeleteA. Goodie 84- You would think this would teach a lesson of modesty and embarrassment but children of our day are just hardnosed a complete different generation…If it was me I would defiantly learn because I would not want to see my Dad in daisy dukes..lol. Embarrassing for a middle age guy because it isn’t the norm to see a mid-age let alone a Man in little shorts…. (Well Basketball Players shorts were short)…I thought this dad was courageous to do this and try and teach his daughter a lesson. However being that the norm is for teenagers to dress less these days it may take a while for her to truly understand the mesg her Dad was trying to portray. On another note…short shorts have been a norm for a while even back in the 60’s Dukes of Hazards or Daisy Dukes… (I think that is the name). So I guess is it the shorts or the girl???? These girls are maturing so fast most of the time you can tell they are teenagers…We also need to look at what is in style not saying or blaming it on what we see on TV but you either fit in or you don’t, you are either a follower or a trendsetter so not really the shorts I think it has to do with the individual! Great Job Dad! If my Dad did this would be something I would never forget!! You get an A for effort!! Hopefully she gets it…
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