Our course will address Education and Religion in Chapter 13, but why wait to enter this current debate.
What is your position on public school graduation ceremonies being held in a church?
Tuesday, January 25, 2011
Separation of Church and High School Graduation
Our course will address Education and Religion in Chapter 13, but why wait to enter this current debate.
What is your position on public school graduation ceremonies being held in a church?
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Lenie Dorisca Online.....
ReplyDeleteI think its ironic that we are pressed to separate the Church and State when our Country was founded upon religious principles. How is the Church and State are separate entities when we have "In God we Trust" on our money?
I have never been inside the First Baptist Church of Woodstock, but it seems like a beautiful venue for any ceremony. Those on either side of the controversy will be upset no matter what the decision is, so my vote would be to continue as normal and use the Church as the Venue. Those that oppose can just sit out of the ceremony.
Natavius F. Online: I don't see what all the uproar is about in regard to holding graduation ceremonies in church. Besides, the church should not be the main concern, the graduation ceremony and seeing those whom you love waltz across that stage and receive his/her diploma/degree should hold greater importance over it being held in a church. It's amazing how some people can shift the focus off something as important as graduation and make a big commotion over something as simple as this. It is simply a venue, it's not like one would be required to convert or choosen to be baptized, or anything of that nature. As for the individuals who had an issue with the location in choice, then maybe they should opt for their diploma/degree via mail and call it a day.
ReplyDeleteNatavius F. Online. In response to Lenie D.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, Lena, there are those whom you'll never be able to please. And I loved what you mentioned about how this country being founded upon religious pricipal. Great point.
James O.online,
ReplyDeleteAmericans United for the Separation of Church and State....these are the fine folks who want to see the words "under God" taken out of The Pledge of Allegiance too.
The Cherokee Co. school board holds the graduation service at this church because the auditorium there seats a greater capacity than any other in the county, not to mention the audio visual there rivals Philips arena.
They are simply holding the graduation ceremony in the building, not holding a church service.
As the others have said before me, nobody is forcing you to attend. If you don't want to walk across the stage with the rest of your class and receive your diploma, you can put on your cap and gown and walk to your mailbox and get it.
Blake Huffman
ReplyDeleteI cant believe this is even an arguement. People need to get over the fact that your in a church, one is there to see their loved one walk across the stage because they accomplished one of the biggest chapters in their life. Its not like one has to sit there and listen to a sermin. If one does not go to church every sunday and is not for going to church, but does not want to go sit in a church for maybe 4 hours to see their son or daughter than i would say your a selfish piece of crap. It would be different if one had to listen to a sermin and then they tried to convert you, but their not. you never know the church could be saving the parents money by having it there instead of the philips arena, thats where my cuzin graduated from and its cost more than my own graduation. So maybe parents should do some research before they start bitching about where their son or daughter graduates from.
I don't think it's a problem to hold the ceremony in the church. However I do think it's a problem how almost all of you are completely missing the point; or rather, your argument is.
ReplyDeleteYou're right. The country was founded on "religious principles." Principles which massacred countless native Americans and oppressed multiple groups of people for centuries. I actually agree that it's not a problem to hold the ceremony in the church, however if you think it IS ok simply because "in God we trust" is on our money and we say "one nation under God" in our pledge of allegiance then you do not understand the significance of separation of church and state.
I was raised Lutheran. I am now a proud atheist. As proud as I am to support and respect others opinions and personal beliefs. I feel like I deserve the same respect. I don't feel it's fair to be forced to say under God in a nation which was founded on racism, prejudice, and oppression in the name of the same God. Just as many Christian conservatives don't think it's fair to teach evolution and not creationism. So, according to you four, if someone is offended at being forced to enter a house of worship for a God they don't believe in, then it "sucks for them" and they can just "sit out" one of the most important ceremonies of one's childhood. I can't be the only one who see's fault in this.
Point is, obviously in a nation that was founded on Christianity, everything is going to be geared towards Christianity. Most people under the age of 25 either aren't Christians anymore, they aren't traditional Christians or they hate going to church on Sunday mornings. Sure the question is about where the ceremony should be held, but the implication is the significance of separation of church and state. It is incredibly significant, and if you all actually think it's ok for someone who doesn't believe in your beliefs to be forced to put up or shut up, then, put simply....for shame.
Shannon H:
ReplyDeleteIt's a building that the school board can afford. The church is not requiring attendees to participate in religious rites so there should not be an issue with it. If they were to require a prayer, however, that would be an infringement upon the rights of others. As long as they are only renting a building and not participating in the practice of a religion, there shouldn't be a problem with it.
I think that some separation between church and state is a good thing. But the argument on where to hold a graduation is ridiculous. It's just a building and Churches tend to allow social events most the time anyways. I never really cared about the graduations ceremony, so I really could care less about what D.C. want to stick there figures into. The Government does what it wants these days regardless of the voters. O well. It's just another pin prick in the system.
ReplyDeleteA. Kibathi
ReplyDeleteThe most important issue here in not where the graduation is being held, It is those kids who have work so hard to get to graduate. The venues just adds the colour to it. In this place its the First Baptist of Woodstock. Its a very beautiful church which can be used for venus like graduation, weddings etc. By attending the graduation at this venue, one is not being forced to practice the religion rite of that church. So it should not cause all this havoc.
Kendaris H. Online
ReplyDeleteI believe it is wrong to have school graduation in churces. I am a christian and believe in god but I do not believe it is fair to other people who do not go to church or are from a specific religion to only be given the option to graduate in a church. It is also wrong because this is america. A land filled with different people and different religions and I feel that if I was from another religion and didn't share the same beliefs as the church in which graduation will be, I would be offended. I would find it very unfair. Why can't it be held in a museum or a large party room or in a arena? Do we not have the funding or is it just easier to do it at church?
I do not see anything wrong with public school graduations being held at a church. With any luck, it will encourage people to behave in better manners.
ReplyDeleteKendaris H. Online in response to Blake Huffman
ReplyDeleteI strongly believe your missing the point. It is an argument between church and state. If anything your being sellfish in stating that " parents need to stop bitching". They have all the rights to give their opinions in where they would like to see their kids graduate. For example, lets say that they would be holding the ceremony in an Islamic religious mosque because it had a lot of space (just make pretend their was one here in the area) and you felt that the Islamic faith was totally riduculous. Would you step a foot in there? And if you did wouldn't you be a hypocrit? Yes, they are not making you practice the religion but places do have meanings you know. You need to watch what you write before you do. You can offend other people and that is "sellfish".
In response to Kendaris H. Online:
ReplyDeleteSimply because a graduation is being held at a church, regardless of religion, does not in any way force anyone to believe in a higher power, or be a member of that congregation. I think that anyone who is in that setting should take it at face value, as im sure no one who is there will read too much in to it.
Jonathan Self: 30967
ReplyDeleteLol who cares??!! All they are trying to dO is get mrs q place to all and sitaround for like 2 hours. If parents/people can't do that for their kids for 2 hours are pathetic. It not like having the graduation @ a church is requiring everyone to pray before they walk in. Lol they r just there to watch their kids graduate which in my opinion on of parents greatest moments of their life.
I feel this is more an issue of people wanting to create a problem than people trying to actually solve one. Schools have held their graduation ceremonies at FBWC for a long time. I have yet to hear any real complaints about. The venue is large enough, and there's nothing offensive about the room it's held in. I don't believe a church is simply a building, but rather the people that make up the body. There is nothing offensive about a room. Heaven forbid it's in a place called a church.No one is forcing any religion on you, and no one is criticizing what you believe. You simply stand in a room for a couple hours, get your diploma, and leave. No harm is done. I really think someone wanted to create a fuss about because they got bored.
ReplyDeleteIn reply to anonymous:
I can understand you wanting your religious views to be respected, but I don't feel they're being tested by standing in a room in a church. If someone were to tell you that your beliefs are wrong and for that reason you couldn't graduate in the church, that would be a different story.
Tai Woods
ReplyDeleteI feel that there should be a separation of church and state. However that is not the case here because the service itself is non denominational. So there really shouldn't be an issue.
James O. in response to "the proud Atheist",
ReplyDeleteLike I said in my earlier post, nobody is asking the attendees to worship. The ceremony is being held in the church auditorium because it simply is a better venue than, say, the high school football field.
I believe I have a pretty good understanding of the separation of church and state.
And by the way, who FORCES you to say "under God"? You have the right not to say it.
You have the right to say whatever you like.
You have the freedom to chose whatever religion you want or don't want.
From what I understand though, whether to hold the commencement ceremony in the church was put up for a vote by the school board.
And the vote was in favor of having it there.
I don't see anyone being forced here.
Isn't it great to live in a country where you have all the rights we have, all the religious freedoms, the freedom of speech...
This country was founded on racism, prejudice and oppression??
I don't believe so.
Plenty of men and women have died protecting the freedom and the rights you and I have taken advantage of in our posts.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Rebekah T.-online. As a Christian myself I believe that it is crazy that America has seperated the two. Even though it is a church, Woodstock first baptist is huge. It is more like a arena then a church. By this I believe that is ok. No one should condoun somwthing until they see it for themselves.
ReplyDeleteRebekah T.-online. In response to Lenia D. That is right our country was founded on relgion. God is who made and makes everything possible and though some people dont want to believe in God. They are crazy not too. God bless our country!!!
ReplyDeleteTyler Lawrence
ReplyDeleteI feel that it shouldn't matter if graduation is inside a church or not because when a student is actually there for the ceremony, there is nothing to do with the church at all. I attended Woodstock High School and graduated last year, and i got to bring all the family members that i wanted to because it was free. There was a ton of space and the atmosphere inside of the church was a very happy and graceful one. I think that Cherokee County should definitely continue this tradition!
To James,
ReplyDeleteActually in many instances one IS forced to say under God when they stand up in class to say the pledge. Obviously not everywhere. I remember when I was in high school I had a teacher who would hold back the entire class after the bell rang if everybody didn't say the pledge correctly. Granted she was fired that year for other reasons, but point is it happens. Even if it didn't, there's still pleeeeennty of other Christian implications in our society that can make one feel very unsettled. For awhile my school had stickers in the front of the science books stating "Evolution is just a theory."
Think about it...is it really better than a football field? What exactly makes it better? The fact it's indoors? I would have loved if my ceremony was outdoors! It was hot as hell in there! By your logic it's just a ceremony being held in a large enough area to accommodate, it shouldn't matter it's a church. So why should it matter it's a football field (where it would probably be free to hold and the student's would probably love it)? Or an airport runway? Or a food court? Someone brought up a good point about having the ceremony in a mosque. I would LOVE to see the outcome of that. I'm sure everybody would vote it in, say it's ok so they come off as PC, but I can almost guarantee when everyone is inside you'll feel an insanely awkward tension in the air.
Seeing as how you're a Christian I'm sure you've been to a church before. One is surrounded by symbols of Christianity and, in a room where the majority of people (not students) will be Christian, it can seem extremely overwhelming. Having said this I agree with what someone else said about "the people who have a problem with this just want to create problems." This may be true...but wouldn't one require a complaint in order to formulate an issue that could then be turned into a problem?
This isn't a football game or Justin Bieber concert or anything, this size school doesn't need some super massive venue. I REFUSE to believe there isn't a single other building within 20 miles (about how far I had to drive to where my ceremony was held) that can hold 1000-2000 people. Mine must have had at least 2000 and it was held in a venue. Not to mention, like I said, it was incredibly hot in there with all these people and for 3 hours we had to sit inside, patient, bored, looking at what's on the wall to try and find entertainment- and what will you see in this instance? A cross.
Oh, and to Rebekah T., your comment about me being "crazy" because I don't believe in your God is extremely offensive. Like I said, yes, America was created on the moral basis of Christianity. Now go ahead and look into the negative influences Christianity had on the founding of America. Hell, look into what's been done in its name over the past 1500 years. I am in full support of you believing, but I do not for a second appreciate your one-sided accusations.
ReplyDeleteMonica G. Online
ReplyDeleteI believe that holding a graduation in a church or in an auditorium has nothing to do with the violation of the constitution. They are not endorsing any religion. Those people who insist to remove all evidence from religion from all public life, even when their argument is so totally lame. Everyone who will be there they know that it is not a religious event but why so much contreversy?, because now we are living in a country with not tolerance, left and right love this stuff and the media has a 24/7 topic to talk about for months.
A strong believer in the separation of church and state, I do not feel that simply holding a graduation ceremony is a breech of that. I do however, feel that it is inappropriate, considering there are Jewish students (I guess Orthodox) who are not allowed under their religion to step foot inside the Church, so they will miss out on one of the best days of their lives. That is not fair for them and all other options should have been attempted. What I do not understand is if separation of church and state actually exists, then why is their church held at nearly every school in Paulding County on Sundays? Even here at Chatt Tech.
ReplyDeleteJames O. online in response to ???
ReplyDeleteNo matter what any one tells you, you don't have to say "under God". As long as a student isn't disruptive or rude, they don't have to say a single word.
As far as you feeling "unsettled" by all the Christian symbols and imagery you see in society,sorry, but you happen to live in a predominately Christian city, state and country.
And world for that matter.
And after thinking about it,YES,having the ceremony indoors in the heat of a Georgia summer sounds alot more appealing to me and probably every other person attending.
Even though runways and food courts sound like a neat idea.
Have it in a mosque? Put it up to a vote.
Obviously, this location has served the citizens and students of Cherokee county and Woodstock High well in the past.
Its an impressive facility, simply more accommodating and more comfortable for a graduation ceremony than other venues in the area.
As far as having to look at those horrible symbols of Christianity, find something else to look at. I'm sure you have some sort of hand held gaming system that could occupy your time.
Monica G Online in response to Kendaris H
ReplyDeleteyes, these parents has the right to say whatever they want to say, but if they feel so uncomfortable and the school has offended their believes, simple just stay home and do not attend the ceremony. Frankly I am tired of these people that complain for everything, and do not think most Americans take in that seriously. People should get back to deal with the real issues that we have.You are the same person with the same principles no matter where you are, a place should'nt change your essence. Tolerance is the key of happiness.Besides noone has called for an specific religion group, and we have to respect every religion and people believes.
Allison M.
ReplyDeleteI do not see anything wrong with graduations being at a church.
We try to separate church and school but it doesnt always work out the way we planned. I see nothing wrong with it.
Courtney P. I personally don't see a problem holding a graduation ceremony in any type of religious building. If the school is having to search around for a location to hold hundreds of people and they do not have that kinda of room, then what else could they do? The school is obviously needing a building that is going to be eye pleasing, holds a large group of people, including enough parking spaces, and a place that is convenient for everyone. A church is one building that comes to mind that fits into this category, so why not use it. To me the place should not really matter where it is located first off, your there for your friends and family who are graduating. As long as the setting is comfortable for you to sit and watch the ceremony and your not all packed together with no room to move, then you shouldn't complain because it is a church setting. I am sure this school had no intension's of offending anyone by selecting this nice looking church. I can even remember being a little girl and attending Emerson Elementary and us having our K-garden graduation inside a Emerson Church.As well as other younger siblings in my family having ceremonies there as well. It is not just this school who does this. I never thought that I would hear of people disputing where a graduation ceremony would and should take place at.
ReplyDeleteI really don't have a take on this. I feel that this may be a bit of a petty battle of religions. Ok, its one thing if they decided to give out communion and what not during the graduation. But this is simply a venue for some kids to graduate and be celebrated for there hard work. I'm not baptist and I'd have no problem having my graduation ceremony in a Baptist church. I feel that some adults can be really petty at times. I may be wrong I'd like to here what the outrage could be in this action?
ReplyDeleteI think I may completely stop responding to comments. I do not like the way this is going. I'd like to simply reinforce my statement by saying, these are my opinions If there are religions that don't condone an individual being inside of a "church" for any reason I can understand the reason behind this uproar. Other than that if this is a simple religious fight, I'll consider it ignorance and move on.
Rebecca M online
ReplyDeleteFirst of all let me say that for an issue to make a big deal out of this is no where near the one to do it with. It is just the biggest place they can get for no money so that the students can invite anyone and everyone they want to to see them walk across the stage and get their depolima. I would see an issue if the principal was telling everyone to join this church or you will go to hell or another religious issue he was trying to force on everyone but he is not and neither is anyone else. So there is no issue here it is just someone with some anti god complex wanted his face on the news and to be heard around the country. It might just be me but I never hear of these types of things happen in other countries around the world, so if it happens they keep it behind closed doors. We all know that this country was founded on GOD and the belief in GOD so even though as a country we encourage freedom of religion there would not be a country to do that if we did not trust in GOD. And one last thing I have to say is to the person who posted they were a proud Atheist I am not sure what that means because when I am proud of something I want everyone to know it as well as who I am (not Anonymous)
Jordan.L
ReplyDeleteGraduation ceremonies in a church isnt that big of a deal to me. Yes its a church but the graduation ceremonies have nothing to do with religion at the time. People are over thinking the whole thing. Yes there are other religions in school but when your going to a graduation what do you think about, seeing your children graduate and if your graduating just thinking about another obstacle in life over with. I guess its one of those things though that people will see differently and feel differently about. But walking across the stage isn't mandatory. You dont want to you dont have to.
Response to Rayshawn B.
I agree it is a petty battle between religions. Truthfully its not that serious, people to me just like to complain about things. Im not bashing religions or anything just an opinion. Its just that there are better things to worry about than that.
Steven S: Online
ReplyDeleteI don't really care whether we have the ceremonies in a church or not. If we can find a place that actually holds all the people needed than we should go for it whether it being a church, mosque, or synague. Any kind of venue would be nice. I had my graduation in the Woodstock Baptist church. I was going there to praise god, but to get my high school diploma, and because my parents told me to go. Religion just takes over way to many people’s lives, but these people need to know that there are other beliefs and to respect them.
In response to Lenie Dorisca Online:
Our country may have started on religious basis but it doesn’t mean that it was right. It was a different time then. If one didn’t believe in God then you were shunned upon, so of course everyone jumped o the bandwagon. "In God we Trust" has been fought against for the longest time, but since 98% of the senate is Christian or catholic of course it will never get taken off. They already gave the right to kids to not have to stand up during the pledge because of the sole reason that it said "under God". Religion is just a theory that is backed up with a lot of believers. Why have people sit outside when you can hold the ceremony in say a state building or maybe at a stadium, where everyone can sit and enjoy THEIR graduation.
DIDNT GO OVER MY GRAMMER, DISREGARD THE LAST POST
ReplyDeleteSteven S: Online
I don't really care whether we have the ceremonies in a church or not. If we can find a place that actually holds all the people needed than we should go for it whether it being a church, mosque, or synague. Any kind of venue would be nice. I had my graduation in the Woodstock Baptist church. I was NOT going there to praise god, but to get my high school diploma, and because my parents told me to go. Religion just takes over way to many people’s lives, but these people need to know that there are other beliefs and to respect them.
In response to Lenie Dorisca Online:
Our country may have started on religious basis but it doesn’t mean that it was right. It was a different time then. If one didn’t believe in God then you were shunned upon, so of course everyone jumped o the bandwagon. "In God we Trust" has been fought against for the longest time, but since 98% of the senate is Christian or catholic of course it will never get taken off. They already gave the right to kids to not have to stand up during the pledge because of the sole reason that it said "under God". Religion is just a theory that is backed up with a lot of believers. Why have people sit outside when you can hold the ceremony in say a state building or maybe at a stadium, where everyone can sit and enjoy THEIR graduation.
James, I'm not even going to write a response this time, since every point you made was already countered. Not really sure why you would think I'd have a hand held gaming system either (much less a school letting the student use it), probably because you're trying to show off your maturity through a condescending remark that would make me seem childish. Nice try, though.
ReplyDeleteDenice C.on line....The big churches have the facilities to accommodate the functions and needs of the public. Just because a church allows a function to assist in the public events does not in no way insinuate that the church is promoting their religious beliefs The function is not one of religion but one for the people.
ReplyDeleteJennifer H Online:
ReplyDeleteIn response to Jordan L:
It shouldn't be that big of a deal, but to many of the "closed-minded" people think that it is. I think "in my personal opinion" that they should let altittle church back into schools. This generation I feel has lost the concept of right and wrong. Many parents would like the extra motivation.
Denice C. reponding to Courtney P...I fully agree with you. At Cartersville High and at all the schools in Bartow County all graduates have tickets to give to their family memebers. The tickets are limited to each graduate. If you work hard and graudate from school; then, I feel you should have family and friends of the graduates choice of he or she would want to come to their graduation.
ReplyDeleteBrandon c. online
ReplyDeleteI dont think there should be any problem with having a grauation reception or any schhol funvtion at any church especialy the first baptist church in woodstock. I have been to this church for a few concerts and it is massive! this venue would be a great place for a graduation ceremony plenty of space and seating.
On another note graduation is a symbol of academic acheivement not religion. For some school systems it is hard to find a venue big ebough to support all the graduetes and there friends and family, trust me my graduation ceremony was held in our gymnasium and by the time everybody got there it was standing room only.
They need to respect other people religion. I think it would be more preferable if the held the graduation on a football field.
ReplyDeleteWill anyone attend if they held the graduation in the mosque? respect people religion.
ReplyDeleteR. Gonzalez-
ReplyDeleteI feel if the school does not have the space to hold the students and guests, a church should be the best place. The church will not charge you, but will except donations. It's empty most of the time and more people should you be able to use the churches for other events since the church doesn't pay taxes.
Elizabeth W. It does not matter where a graduation is held, there are no prayers or worship going on at the time of the ceremony. It is also hard to find large venues to hold that many people. Since we live in the bible belt of the south, where religion is a major part of life for some, churches offer large spaces to accomodate these type of crowds.
ReplyDeleteJames O. online in response to Anonymous...
ReplyDeleteYou are right. I apologize for the condescending remark, it was uncalled for. Maybe certain subjects get me a bit fired up. You make very good points and I do appreciate the volley back and forth. Have a great day.
Marie c...
ReplyDeleteWow!!!! god bless america is what most politcian say at close of their speech but now they want to separate church and state.The very foundation of our country was build upon religion and in order for us as a country to know where were going we must never forget where we came from.Personaly i have been inside first baptist of woodstock and its a beautiful sight instead of separating state and church we should be uniting them and maybe there would not be so much chaos in the world today.
Marcus Key
ReplyDeleteseriously, who gives a crap where a graduation is being held. one that place is huge so its a good place to hold all that many people that a graduation brings, two.. graduations, the tradition of it like homecomings orginate from religion from what i have heard. And its a Church, nothing is wrong with it and i doubt they are having a full sermon going on when people are receiving there diploma
Shane B. -Online
ReplyDeleteTo start, I am an Atheist myself and believe strongly in Secularism. However, these ceremonies being held in a church isn't the issue, it's whether or not the content of the graduation contains religious references and celebration during the graduation ceremonies. In my opinion, as long as religion stays out of the ceremony there shouldn't be a big fuss. It just needs to be viewed as rented space, and nothing more during those graduations.
Shane B. -Online
ReplyDeleteIn response to Denice C.,
You took the words right out of my mouth. A lot of these churches rent out their social halls and large space for all kinds of events. It's more or less a method to bring profit to that church. A church is only a building, the thing that makes that change is when religious practices are being held.
Shane B. -Online
ReplyDeleteIn response to Steven S.s' response to Lenie Dorisca,
This is a common misconception, but our country was found on secular beliefs. In fact, most of our founding fathers were Atheists and strictly disliked the idea of religion being anywhere near close to our government. Think about it, if they were religious they wouldn't have pressed for it to be kept completely separate from Federal affairs.
Many of the religious references on our currency did not happen until a 100 or so years later, and even the national anthem was modified due to Christian influence in the government. One last thing to note is the pledge of allegiance which originally did not have "under God" until 1954 when Eisenhower went on a rampage adding all kinds of required religious changes to our currency and pledge.
I would have to say that I agree to continue to have the graduation in the place that it has always been held. I get very upset over this entire situation. Graduation is graduation no matter where it is held. No one is being forced to go to a church for religious purpose it is merely a venue for graduation ceremonys to be held. I personally find it very selfish and completely rediculous to not want to go to the graduation being it yours or a family members only because it is being held in a church. A home can be considered a church if someone wants it to be..it states in the bible that a church is a place of worship where two or more people come together. I do believe that everyone should have a choice of prayer in school ect. but in thi situation specifically I do not see an issue with it and I do not understand why other people do.
ReplyDeleteJ. Ponders online responding to Brett
ReplyDeleteI totally agree that thier should be some seperation and that is a completely different issue as you pointed out. I agree with your entire statement..everything has become so petty these days. It is really disgusting
J. Ponders online
ReplyDeleteI would have to say that I agree to continue to have the graduation in the place that it has always been held. I get very upset over this entire situation. Graduation is graduation no matter where it is held. No one is being forced to go to a church for religious purpose it is merely a venue for graduation ceremonys to be held. I personally find it very selfish and completely rediculous to not want to go to the graduation being it yours or a family members only because it is being held in a church. A home can be considered a church if someone wants it to be..it states in the bible that a church is a place of worship where two or more people come together. I do believe that everyone should have a choice of prayer in school ect. but in thi situation specifically I do not see an issue with it and I do not understand why other people do.
For all of you who are stating the fact that our Country was founded on religious beliefs have forgotten to mention that Separation of Church and State was put into place for this very reason. They did not want the State saying where or what they had to believe, nor did they want the Church having power over the State; therefore, keep them separate. Of course at a glance and with a self-centered, unopen mind of other religions and people of other beliefs, this may seem like no big deal. But for someone whose religion does not allow them inside of a Church no matter what the reason, IT IS UNFAIR. Plain and simple. There are plenty of places without any such conflict to hold a graduation ceremony. But most likely the Board and those involved in the planning and voting are themselves Christian and never even thought of this fact.
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ReplyDeleteI don't find it harmful to hold a graduation ceremony in a church facility. They can be beautiful places and not to mention if you find the right one they can accommodate a large number of people. As long as there are not religious influences present, such as a sermon or prayer, I don't see anything wrong with the location at all. Some people may find it morally wrong but, as long as they keep the purpose strictly to the graduation ceremony, I don't see why there would be an issue. I don't even participate in church and I wouldn't be offended if my school held it's graduation in a church.
In response to J.Ponders Online
ReplyDeleteSamantha Long. Online
I completely agree. They aren't saying that before the graduation ceremony there will be a manditory seremony or prayer held. It is simply a location that fits the needs of the graduation. Who cares if it happens to be a church?? They should embrace the day and the special occassion and not worry about where it is held. There are always people that will pick out the bad of the best situation.
Margaret.N.
ReplyDeleteI do not think that the venue makes any difference to this graduates,as in whether its a church or not,what matters is to find an affordable venue,which happens to be the church.
OYEBOLA O. ONLINE: Numerous schools are not able to conduct their graduation ceremonies on school property because there is no auditorium large enough to allow the crowds. Graduates are often allotted as many as six to eight tickets and when everyone who can participate takes part the space issue becomes real while the auditorim is empty;the local churches and their empty buildings should be able to accommodate the school graduation.
ReplyDeleteRochelle G Online in response to Lenie Dorisca Online. I agree that you can not please everyone. Those that have a problem with the venue for the ceremony have a choice not to attend. I you please all of the people all of the time you are doing something wrong.
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ReplyDeleteJust in my opinion. It seems to me that what is being celebrated, high school graduation, one of the biggest goals in a youths life, is being forgotten. Those that oppose the venue for the graduation, in my opinion, are not focused on what is really happening. Beside, I was always taught that the church really are the people, a body of baptized believers in Christ Jesus, NOT the building.
Rochelle G Online in response to Wendi E Online
ReplyDeleteWHAT RELIGION DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO GO INTO A CHURCH BUILDING? Forgive my ignorance.
I don't understand the problem as far as people not wanting their children to participate in graduation ceremonies, just because it is held in a church. No where in the ceremony does it refer to any specific religion, or even at all! It would be nothing but selfish to deny your child the opportunity to celebrate the hard work they put in for four years! As far as I can see, a HUGE majority of the responses to this subject are not having any issues at all with having graduation in a church. Therefore, I don't see that the government would interfere, only because I'm sure most of the country would feel the same way that most of us do.
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ReplyDeleteOops! Forgot to put my name! I don't understand the problem as far as people not wanting their children to participate in graduation ceremonies, just because it is held in a church. No where in the ceremony does it refer to any specific religion, or even at all! It would be nothing but selfish to deny your child the opportunity to celebrate the hard work they put in for four years! As far as I can see, a HUGE majority of the responses to this subject are not having any issues at all with having graduation in a church. Therefore, I don't see that the government would interfere, only because I'm sure most of the country would feel the same way that most of us do.
Leslie Zinsmeister Online In response to Wendy E.
ReplyDeleteI do understand that there SOMEWHERE in the world, there is a religion that does not allow someone of a certain faith to enter a church that does not practice that religion, BUT those people ( I guarantee there may be 1 in about 1000 that this pertains to) should choose to sit out the ceremony. You can't change something that has been going on for many years, all for one person. Sorry, that's ridiculous.
Nyrva B online:
ReplyDeleteNot at all, there is no problem with holding a graduation at a church. Its' a church, not a building were KKK members held there gatherings. No one is being forced to convert or pray to any sort of higher power. So, what exactly is the big deal? It's a church!
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ReplyDeletei personally dont care if the state uses a house of worship as a graduation ground as long as they are not worshiping at the same time
Courtney R., I think it should be okay for the graduation to be held in the church. It's not like the students will be doing anything religious during the ceremony.
ReplyDeleteCharlotte_online, I think we should not mix world pleasures with God. We should fear God and give him respect.I also think school should have a facility where graduation ceremony should be held.
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I know the church it self is were prayers and church services are held for praise. But if church is rented for a different purpose I see no problem to that.
The separation of church and state was necessary when it was established and it is still important today. The church dictated unjust laws that were enforced by the government creating corruption on a massive scale. In America the the freedom of religion would be compromised if the views of one religion is pressed on the masses. Some of these laws are never the less still enforced such as the local law of no alcohol sales on Sunday. Nevertheless, these laws are a good thing and should be enforced in order to be fair and unbiased. In the case of this graduation however is completely ridiculous in my opinion. The Church is a public building that is apparently the best option to host this event as far as function and price is concerned.
ReplyDeleteI will give an example to that is comparable to me: A company function is being held at a local restaurant. The company chose this restaurant because it had a perfect section for the companies outing and also were going to give the company a very good price for the function's cost. There was an outcry from the public directed at the company to not hold the outing at the restaurant because some of the attendees may be vegetarian and some of the meat served on the menu might offend some of the people in attendance. No one is forcing the people to eat meat and it wont even be served at the outing. But because there has been meat in the building at one time it is offensive and not politically correct. The company is forced to find another, less appealing and more costly option for their meeting.
Now I understand that a christian may feel uncomfortable in a mosque, and a atheist may offended if they are forced to go into a synagogue. I just feel that the PC in the country is boarding on the ludicrous in many facets. The more we cater to the separation of different people and different ways of life the less chance there is of a group of American citizens to get along with one another. Do actions like this not help to exasperate stereotyping and racism?
Mysti C. Online-I feel that is should not be a problem to use religious cite for graduations. At that moment, it becomes a nice place to host a ceremony. Too many people are taking the issue way over board and feeling that is some how disrespecting other religions, but it is about economic issues. It is probably cheaper to rent out a church for a graduation than some where like the GA Dome. It also helps the school and the church when it comes to the financial part of it. I have been to a graduation that was given inside a church and nothing about religion was brought up during the ceremony, it was about the graduation. I can understand where people are coming from that has very strong religious issues, but they need to take account of the financial strain on the school that is giving the graduation. Also, so school have contracts and commitments to churches to use their property and get a great discount for it. So if these people feel that they have an issue, then they should contribute money to the school to pay for a different venue.
ReplyDeleteMysti C In response to Charlotte Online- I can respect how you feel about not mixing world pleasures with God, but a higher power got a lot of those to students to walk across the stage. If no religion is brought up in the ceremony, then it is just used a venue to host a joyous celebration of the accomplishment of the students. It has nothing to do with fearing God, but celebrating an accomplishment. I do not think hosting that type of event is in anyway disrespecting God. I just feel that if people feel that strongly about having a graduation at a church, then come up with some money to pay for a large venue like a civic center.
ReplyDeleteIesha B.-Online...I think that it shouldn't matter where the venue is for high school graduation because it's not like they are going to church for worship or anything.I think the venue for graduation should remain at church.
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ReplyDeleteI was brought up in the church so i do not see anything wrong with having a ceremony in a church, but others who are not christain will find it unpleasant to them. so i think it's a good idea for them having it in the church for space reason. The student can have all their families and friends present at the ceremony. Instead of giving them the minimum number of families to be present.The students memory of the church is because of graduration not anything esle.
Esther B Online
ReplyDeleteTo response to Shannon H, I agreed with you that they are only doing the graduation at the church because of space.The site is religious but at that time it not church rites that are being practise just a ceremony for the student. So they should let the school do their graduation and stop making big deal of it be done in a church.
Julie S. Online
ReplyDeleteThere are always going to be those people who whine and try to take a positive event and turn it into a drama pagent. It is impossible to please everyone. Our country is suppose to be based upon religious views. So what is the big deal. Maybe those who have a problem with this venue should just be absent on that day. It should not be runied for everyone because of a few others opinion.
Julie S. online in response to Lenie Dorisca
ReplyDeleteI agree with your post 100%. How ironic it is! Our country is perhaps trying to hard to please everyone. The ones that complain the most usually end up getting their way. I guess there will always be those who try to not enjoy their life by complaining so much.
Donna H. Online - My church is currently carrying a 2 million mortgage, my attitude is this, If someone wants to rent out our space for a fee, and it'll help pay the mortgage, then it's a win win situation for us.
ReplyDeleteBrittany T. Online- I hate that there has become such a division between the school and church. I remember a time when we didn't have to salute the American flag, but we still had to stand out of respect. Then the school system instituted the moment of silence, where you didn't have to reflect but for that minute you had to stand still and be quiet out of respect. Our country has lost the stand for respect and morale. We have become a people of not what is good, but what is good for me. To hold a ceremony in a nice space that is large enough to accommadate the entire student body and their families is one of the reason's I'm sure they decided to have it at a church. The fact the location is convienent is probably another reason. While the church is a positive pillar of the community and has provided outreach for atleast some of the community if not more, and holds its self and its dwellers to a higher standard should be added reasons to hold a graduation ceremony. When I graduated we said a prayer as a class. Those who weren't religious or didn't agree with it sat quietly our of respect and it wasn't at a church. It was something positive to add to our next phase into life.
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ReplyDeleteResponse to Wendi- While I am very much open to the idea I didn't take into consideration it being against the religion of others to step foot in the house of worship of another religion (House being the place deemed souly for the purpose of a specific religion). So I see it being a huge issue with keeping the two seperate. Thank you for educating me to something new and giving a different perspective.
Rebecca D. I do not believe that a graduation ceremony should be held in any religious institution unless, it's for a religious private school. While Woodstock First Baptist would be a wonderful place to hold a graduation, it might make others who do not practice Christianity uncomfortable. There are many other places to hold a graduation ceremony that are not affiliated with any religious organization.
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ReplyDeleteIn response to Rochelle G.
Good Point, the church IS the people and not the building that houses the service. Great Point.
I dont think that graduations should be aloud to be held in churches. I think that it goes against some people's religions and some people are just uncomfortable being in churches. I think when your doing graduation it should be held somewhere where everybody is comfortable at.
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ReplyDeleteI dont think just because your church needs money or anything else i think it shouldnt be about the church its about the students.
Michele G
ReplyDeleteIt is a building ONLY for the purpose of holding a graduation ceremony. There are no 'religious' acts that are performed during the ceremony. Let's propose that EVERY place of worship open up their doors to allow our young accomplishers to celebrate in their house. Make room! Sounds like a balance to me. Or perhaps the opposers should find the building that will best suite this ceremony within the same budget this facility charges.....
Jonathan R. Online
ReplyDeleteI am for high school graduations being held in churches. I don't really see an issue it's just a venue at which the ceremony is held. It's no big deal to me if it is in a church. As long as the church is a nice one and can hold is big enough for a great sized crowd i can see no issues. I just think it is kinda useless to argue about it.
Jonathan Ridings online
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I agree with what you said about trying to please everyone. It's too difficult to please everyone. It's not gonna happen. I just think there is really no point to argue this.
Caleb Alexandre-Louis~ Online
ReplyDeleteI think that holding graduation in a church is a lot more comfortable than in any other place to be honest. I agree with Jonathan and Julie, pleasing the masses is a political move that we see fail over and over again. Change can be good but attempting to forcefully uproot tradition only really leads to chaos.
Caleb Alexandre-Louis~ Online
ReplyDeleteIn Response to Brittany T. I completely agree that our nation has lost its' respect and morals for others and has been turned to focus more on the individual. However that is what it means to be an American, that is to say, the American Dream. Which is why it comes to no ones surprise that we cannot agree to simply enjoy a momentous occasion like graduation regardless of where it is held. Also to education a few, the church is not a building... it is the people who attend it. the gathering of believers. So to say one cannot be allowed to step foot into a church is like saying one cannot step foot into a nation of Christians...
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ReplyDeleteThis issue of seperation of church and school will never come to an end. Graduation should be held at any place that is convenient to everybody. Having the ceremony at church does not makes any difference to me.
Julie A. Online
ReplyDeleteI think that the whole thing is outrageous. It should not matter if schools decide to hold a graduation ceremony in a church or not. Why does it matter if we have a graduation ceremony in a church or in a basement? It’s still the same ceremony and it’s usually boring too. If we take graduations out of churches does that mean that we will have to have a whole new currency system? All of our money says “In God we trust” so does this mean that the next step is to change all our currency? Also, it seems that no matter what we do the politically correct activists will think of some new absurd thing that Americans do that is discriminating and wrong. In addition graduation ceremonies are in no way religious and the venue does not matter to begin with and if you don’t want to go to it then you don’t have to.
Julie A. Online In response to Tanner_online
I agree that some people do feel uncomfortable in churches but if you are uncomfortable in a church then you don’t have to go. Also, everyone is different and no matter where the venue is held at there will always be someone who feels uncomfortable there. It is impossible to please everyone; therefore if you feel uncomfortable in going to a church, then you don’t have to go.
Deidre C. Online:
ReplyDeleteI believe that it shouldn't be an issue to hold a graduation in a church building. It's a "building". There are "churches" holding services in schools. Schools are government buildings.
The county is trying to meet a need which is to provide a space big enough for a graduation ceremony. If the church in Woodstock is the biggest venue in the county then that venue should be used.
At my graduation we had ours on the football field. My youngest brother had his at Lanierland Country Music Park. IT's just a "venue".
Melina G. ONLINE-
ReplyDeleteMy stand on this issue is that public school graduation ceremonies should not be held in churches or other places of worship for that matter. This is a very special day for teenagers and it should be all about them and what they want. At the end of the day it's about picking a neutral place that pleases as many of the graduates as possible. So, choosing a place of worship when there is such a diversity in religion with students these days, is not the best of choices.
Melina G. ONLINE In response to Karimot A.-
I completely agree that we should respect other people's religion. I had my high school graduation on our football field and it was perfect. Everyone was happy and everyone and their families were able to attend.
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ReplyDeleteI was raised in a liberal home , but with strong values.So what the graduation is being held in a church. If it is the only building in the county that can handle the crowds. Those other people that complain can just stay at home and receive their diploma in the mail.
joy online
ReplyDeletei agree with shannon i think its just the building that the schoolboard can afford and the church is not requiring the attendees to participate in religious rites,but how about ''one nation under God?'' i think the parties shouid set aside all hypocracy,religious politics and brickrings and concentrate on the happines of those kids.
joy online
ReplyDeleteFor crying out loud ,what impression are they giving to the muslims? or is it the muslims among them that do not want to go inside the church building? well, if yes ,am not surprised.I rest my case.
joy online
ReplyDeleteIn response to Mellina and Karimot,well if it happens that they have both religions fighting over a venue its understandable, not same christians its a shame because everything in this world has turned politics.Anyway we should all give peace a chance.
Joy online, i also agree with Alexandra Louse we cannot please everybody,but importantly,lets consider the graduants and stop playing God and politics.
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ReplyDeleteThere are multiple reasons that I believe schools should be able to continue graduation in a church setting. My middle school graduation was in a neighborhood Baptist church as well and not once did they have a choir to get up and sing or the preacher to get up and speak. The church was only a holding space for the promotional ceremony. Also when you take the church out of schools, I believe that you take the foundation out of the neighborhood. I was once told that, “it takes a village to raise a child.” When you take the church out of the village then you leave out a belief in the kids and then the community can’t grow.
Christopher K in response to Lenie
ReplyDeleteI absolutely agree with you when you said that “our country was founded under God”. It is on our dollar bills, our pledge of allegiance, and multiple other anthems that founded our nation. So why are we trying to take it away from our school systems?
Randi H-online. in response to anonymous..
ReplyDeleteThere was no name attached to the post, however I'm responding to the former Lutheran, now atheist. I completely agree with your point of view. I believe in God, however, i do not go to church. It seems most traditional Christians don't value the opinions and rights of other people with different beliefs. No two people are the same and no one should be judged because of their lifestyle or beliefs. this country is very diverse, and I think the point is that Christians need to quit thinking they are better than everyone and forcing their churches and beliefs onto people. If people are offended by being in a church during their graduation, that should be addressed. This is their day just as much as it is anyone elses, their feelings and opinions are just as important as any good church going person.
Cynthia T. Online
ReplyDeleteI don't personally see a problem with holding a graduation at a church as long as there is no religious pressures present. Graduation is graduation it is about family and friends coming together to celebrate the success of another not about the building it takes place in.
Cynthia T. Online
ReplyDeleteIn response to Marie S. I completely agree with you. If you opt to not go to someones graduation or your own because of the venue hosting it stay at home. Don't ruin something for everyone else because you don't like the building it's in.
Nyrva B. online in response to Cynthia T.: Cynthia, you are right! A graduation ceremony is only about the students and their accomplishments. The building itself should have nothing to do with it.
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ReplyDeleteI don't think that it matters where graduation is held. The fact that it is a church would never concern me. I attended an Atlanta Public School and all graduations were held at the civic center downtown, while alot of my friends went to Fulton ZCounty Schools and they had graduation where ever they could fit. I mean lets get serious, there not a preacher holding service or making the audience take communion, or pressuring you to convert. There's a pricipal, some teachers, and the valadictorian saying some kind of speech and passing out awards. Even if God or Jesus is mentioned that can happen in any building, not just cause graduation is in church. If it concerns you that much don't go get your diploma from the school or records building. And if no one from Cherekee Schools has complained then but out. And just in case there where some who did it wasn't enough for you to call the news station yourself!!!
Moiya H. Online
ReplyDeleteIn reponse to Melina G.
Just like with Cherekee County Schools most scools have there graduation in the same place every year, or say the change of venue a least a whole school year in advance cause they worked on it over summer break. So if you choose to allow your child to go to that school knowing where graduation is going to be and it bothers you or the child transfer or don't go!! I can understand being respectful to everyone but two stundents can not attend or transfer schools intead of the other 400 students in the class trying to find somewhere else to go.
Donna M. Online
ReplyDeleteThere really shouldn't be a debate in regards to this subject. My son's graduation was held at a church. Churches are venues just like any other establishment. The anticipation of graduation should be something that everyone should be looking forward to. It is not for some group to try and enforce separation. If they don't want their children to attend graduation at the church then that is their right.
Donna M. Online - In response to Moiya H.
ReplyDeleteI agree just because it is held at a church does not mean that there is going to be any type of preaching of the gospel or anything that might be religious in nature.
Amanda H Online:
ReplyDeleteI am not religious, but I have absolutely no problem with the use of a church as a venue, though I can understand why people may be concerned, especially in the consideration of those with different beliefs. The fact of the matter is that as long as the religious points of the building were not pressed upon students, a venue is a venue. Like every other church and mosque you may see every day, it's your choice to believe it. Seeing one does not change your mind about what you believe, and belief systems are much stronger than that. My belief is that if you believe your views are so fragile that you would view the use of a building as unacceptable, perhaps you should consider how deeply rooted you are in your beliefs and if you should explore your options instead- and hey, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that either, but you shouldn't feel threatened by the rightful decisions of a human mind. A building simply does not have anything to do with it, even though it's okay.
Amanda H to Lenie Dorsica:
ReplyDeleteI believe hat's a bit of circular logic in play. The reason "In God We Trust" was on our money is because of people with the certain belief that Church and State are unseperated. While I do believe religion is an important part of the foundation of our society, we are also a country of mass diversity in religion as well, and as a country of diversity I believe that we should not cater to any one religion especially on the topic of our government which is our governing system. They are our highest standing officials and as such our government should represent our people as individuals equally. That means allowing the government which represents all people to have a standing which accurately depicts all people, meaning no religious priority should be taken from one group to another because it can appear to represent a religious bias.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that the majority rules. If the people of Cherokee county don't want commencement to be held in buildings that function as places of worship, they should vote against the school board officials in the next election. In the U.S. citizens have the opportunity to complain and make change occur without being punished. Take a petition, protest, or don't attend the ceremony if you have strong conviction against it being conducted in a building that doubles as a Christian place of worship.
I do believe in separation of church and state. Although, this is not the issue in this case.
We cannot have one religious denomination with more influence than another. Government agencies have enough difficulty making honest decisions without the emotion of religion being involved. Everyone has a right to attend the church they believe in. It is wrong to condemn other religions based on your beliefs.
In response to Julie S.
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I agree with you. Why is a group in Washington, D.C. trying to make a decision for Cherokee county? If anything this might be a state issue but definitely not a federal issue. How did they even hear about Cherokee County Georgia anyway? Debate is good, though. Let the people involved with issue make the decsion
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This is actually in response to everyone. We all have made very valid points in regard to the Church, our choices and "In God we Trust" but we need to pick and choose our battles.
There are so many other issues of importance that people in DC should worry about. Although others on this board seem to disagree that the country was founded on Christian principles, I still stand by it and that is what makes America great! We do not have to agree and I don't have to worry about getting my head cut off.
Eric D.
ReplyDeleteI believe their is no issue in having a graduation ceremony in a church wether you were religious or not. Graduation has nothing to do with the place your in, its the symbolism of you finishing your required education. I don't understand why the government gets involved with a county situation anyways.
Mark McD online:
ReplyDeleteI think it is perfectly fine for students to graduate in a church.I graduated at that very same church and in no way at all was any views or religion in any kind of was present.I think it is very childish what some are doing by trying to get them to hold it somewhere else.It is the biggest and nicest place the schools can afford and all they are doing is punishing the kids.These people in my opinion are just looking for attention.I find it laughable.
Mark McD online:
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Donna M. like I said I graduated from a church.We all were just looking forward to graduating.In no way did anyone that I knew stop and say they wish they were not graduating in a church.
K BLAN ONLINE:
ReplyDeleteI dont see the problem of having a graduation ceromony in a church. Like Others have already said, it is about the graduation not about anything religious. If someone has a problem with having a graduation in a church, then thats fine but I think that they would just be complaining because they have nothing else to complain about.
Loan N.Online.
ReplyDeleteGraduation ceromony is no noisy or disturb anything.
Deidre C. Online in response to Anonymous "for shame" person,
ReplyDeleteI believe that you should be thankful you live in a country that has given you the "freedom" to voice your opinion. In my opinion the question was direct and asked what our thoughts were on holding a graduation ceremony at a church.
Stephanie M. Online:
ReplyDeleteI don't see a problem with having a graduation ceremony in a church. If religion is not brought up during the ceremony it shouldn't affect anyone. Church is in you and doesn't have anything to do with a building.
Stephanie M. in response to Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteWhether you believe in God or not how does it hurt you to have your graduation ceremony in a church? Also, not every Christian is Baptist.
Kevin G_Online
ReplyDeleteI feel that the venue should be allowed to continue at the church, but the revenue that the church receives should only be used for the facility for the event..lights, air conditioning etc. the remaining funds received for hosting the event should go to a charity not the church itself. For example the remaining funds should go to an Atlanta homeless shelter or "Feed the Children".
KGorges_Online
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The issue is where public tax dollars are spent. I should be able to have an oppinion on where my tax dollars are spent.
Lula D
ReplyDeleteI do not see anything wrong using a church for public school graduation ceremonies. The church is just a building, it happens to be, a place to fellowship together. Certainly, it will not be use for the purpose of changing any one else religion or belief. It will be using by a group of students who share the same common goal of success and happiness. Although, they came from different background of life, such religion, social affiliation but their last day of the achievement, they should be able to enjoy that day without any interference from the local politicians and activists. It is a shame that people make big deal out of nothing.
I really do not understand why this would be such a big deal. The only reason a parent, relative or friend should have on thier minds are that they are attending a graduation for a loved one. What difference does it make if its in the church or not. At the point in time the church is just a building. If nothing is brought up in the ceromony about "GOD" then everything should be just fine.
ReplyDeleteIn reponse to Moiya H.
ReplyDeleteI do agree that just because it will be held at church it doesn't mean that you will be going through your normal Sunday Church meeting.
Amorim R., Sonia
ReplyDeleteI do not hane any issues with graduation ceremonies taking place at any church as long as the institution does not attempt to indocrinate the guests with their religious point of view.
SP-I do not have any issues with graduation ceremonies taking place at any church, because I had my own graduation at the exact same place and was too excited about getting my diploma to focus on religious background. Which I believe all students are excited about and as long the church doesn’t push their views during the ceremony I think its okay.
ReplyDeleteI do not see anything wrong using a church for public school graduation ceremonies. The church is just a building, it happens to be, a place to fellowship together. Certainly, it will not be use for the purpose of changing any one else religion or belief. It will be using by a group of students who share the same common goal of success and happiness. Although, they came from different background of life, such religion, social affiliation but their last day of the achievement, they should be able to enjoy that day without any interference from the local politicians and activists. It is a shame that people make big deal out of nothing.
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